• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      There’s distinct flavors of liberalism in political science. For example in Classical Liberalism most modern conservatives are included because they want a democratic government.

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        7 months ago

        That’s kind of my point. Saying ‘liberal just means not conservative’ is so vague that it’s effectively meaningless.

        I also think it’s done intentionally to normalize/consolidate voting patterns for a set of people who share very little actual views or policy goals and enforce a political binary. In that way I think it’s worse than meaningless - it’s actively harmful.

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      7 months ago

      A lot of us speak colloqial, speaking colloquial is more common. You cannot enter a discourse held by laymen, assume and use academic definitions, and expect to be understood or agreed with

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        Much of the English speaking world uses liberal to mean its formal definition, for example, the Liberal Democratic Party in the UK.

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        Maybe not if the definition is left assumed to be shared, but you’d think the layman may come to a richer understanding of meaning once presented with a precise distinction .