I didn’t say that people who use Android are stupid and neither I intended to. What I meant is that Android is really enshittificated now. “It’s certainly not possible to just not have a phone” is another story. I think relying on phones too much hurts people and the world a lot but again that’s a whole new story
Okay, but saying “Imagine using Android” paints a certain picture. And, yes, relying on phones is dangerous. It’s not that it’s impossible to live without a smartphone, it’s that arbitrary systems have been put up in society that have created a large dependence on them.
That’s nonsense. You can pretty much deal with any unrooted Android phone with Android 9 and above with this smartphone guide. https://lemmy.ml/post/128667
What does stock even mean? No “factory” shipped phone is going to be ideal for privacy and security. Stock to me means the custom Android build firmware that company shipped on the phone. As long as I am merely uninstalling programs, modifying permissions and firewalling the system, without rooting or unlocking it, it still is a stock factory phone. Within minutes I can return it to its “factory” status.
I didn’t say that people who use Android are stupid and neither I intended to. What I meant is that Android is really enshittificated now. “It’s certainly not possible to just not have a phone” is another story. I think relying on phones too much hurts people and the world a lot but again that’s a whole new story
Okay, but saying “Imagine using Android” paints a certain picture. And, yes, relying on phones is dangerous. It’s not that it’s impossible to live without a smartphone, it’s that arbitrary systems have been put up in society that have created a large dependence on them.
Agreed in everything. Will try to be more careful about what I say next time
Stock android is definitely enshitified - but there is still hope with custom os’s
They can change small thing or two, but nothing at the core. Look: when Samsung add something to Android vs when Google.
That’s nonsense. You can pretty much deal with any unrooted Android phone with Android 9 and above with this smartphone guide. https://lemmy.ml/post/128667
Then its no longer stock?
What does stock even mean? No “factory” shipped phone is going to be ideal for privacy and security. Stock to me means the custom Android build firmware that company shipped on the phone. As long as I am merely uninstalling programs, modifying permissions and firewalling the system, without rooting or unlocking it, it still is a stock factory phone. Within minutes I can return it to its “factory” status.
That is the definition “stock” for me as well. What @[email protected] mentions is the definition of “default”. Big difference.
Fair enough - we are agreed at least then that the default android os is awful for privacy.
We all agree on that, I’m sure. Have a great Sunday, guys.
You too!