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    Let’s take all that “You can’t POSSIBLY vote for GENOCIDE-adjacent person even if the alternative is LITERALLY A HUNDRED TIMES WORSE INCLUDING LOTS MORE GENOCIDE” energy

    And apply it to “You can’t POSSIBLY sit around typing on the internet while the world is falling apart, let’s get involved in direct activism to make the US a better place instead of hoping that voting is enough which it definitely isn’t”

    While also, yes, voting for “not the end of the world”

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    luckily, your vote only really matters if you live in a swing state

    🥲

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        I’ve been voting all my life, silly. This is statistics, not a TV show where the power of believing in yourself magically saves the day.

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      Your vote matters regardless of where you live in the US. City, County, and State elections are extremely important.

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        I never claimed that, the image was talking about presidential elections.

        Unless you live in a swing state, you’re not changing jack with you vote – not without a whole lot of community organizing, something us Americans are just famous for…

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    1. Your vote for president likely doesn’t matter unless you live in one of a few states
    2. The Dems love that they can just scare you into voting against Trump rather than doing things that would excite you to vote Blue
    3. They love you caring more about Trump than Gaza or Cop City or Haiti
    4. There’s WAY more to vote for than President
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      rather than doing things that would excite you to vote Blue

      You mean like doubling the overtime exemption salary, reinstituting net neutrality, forcing airlines to refund cancelled flights and banning non-compete agreements in nearly all cases? Because those all happened like, last week. Not to mention larger policies like student loan forgiveness, abortion, etc. that are supported nearly exclusively by Democrats.

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        It is hard to get the news to cover positive things that don’t get people angry, so a lot of people think that the Dems aren’t doing anything.

        The Dems do need to learn how to promote their successes.

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          Counterpoint: the dems wouldn’t have implemented these changes if people weren’t fucking angry at them.

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            With Gaza, I think this is completely accurate (and even then there’s a disconnect between the huge level of outrage and the tiny little concessions to humanity that the Democrats have enacted as a result under that pressure).

            With most things, it’s not. You can’t possibly tell me that sweeping climate change legislation, creating a small amount of support in the tiny minority of people in the US who are aware enough of what’s going on to care, but incurring the anger of the incredibly powerful fossil fuel lobby, was done because of cold political calculus. I think it’s actually borne out of genuine concern (which makes sense – these politicians’ kids and grandkids have to live on the planet in the future too, and they don’t have the Republican luxury of living in a pure fantasy-world where they think somehow that it won’t impact them.)

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        That shit doesn’t get passed when the dems feel safe. Criticising Biden (including the announcement that you wouldn’t vote for him) is how democracy is supposed to work.

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          That shit doesn’t get passed when the dems feel safe.

          The process to properly implement these reforms done via government agencies takes years of public comments (tens of thousands of them, and you have to respond to every one!), review, etc. if you don’t want their effects to just be immediately repealed like many of Trump’s were.

          You’re allowed to criticize Biden, and I am allowed to defend him. Nobody’s censoring you.

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      Mostly agree, but you be saying #2 like scare tactics isn’t the standard practice for mostly all politicians in every party these days (not even just in the USA, but all around the globe). Trying to make that a trait of a specific party feels kinda disingenuous to me.

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        Dems got stuck on fear-based politics in 2015 and never recovered.

        This is of course secondary to their primary strategy of fear-based fundraising. They’re a fundraising organization first and foremost. They forgot how to be actual political representatives long before 2015.

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    “I have to vote for Biden to make sure Trump doesn’t get in office and start doing all this bad stuff that Biden is currently doing”

    Great logic…