• WhatsThePoint@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    These fucking industries are so stupid. Stop spending your money fighting needed change and use that money to develop viable alternatives. Long run it’s a much smarter investment because you aren’t going to stop the change humanity needs to survive. Business people are pretty dumb when it comes to these seemingly obvious choices.

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      I agree, but my understanding of it is that developing and announcing a long term plan for a company like that would cause the stock price to dip in the short term. Apparently that would be something shareholders could sue over, so even if some CEO wanted to do the right thing, they couldn’t. It comes down to the greed of people who don’t know and don’t care about the companies they’re invested in and their impacts on the world. They just want that money to come in every month.

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        When America had actual regulations on shareholders and things like stock buy backs back in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, shareholders didn’t have this leverage and STILL got obscenely rich. Reagan was the beginning of the hardcore shareholder strip mining of American businesses. We need to reinstate a lot of our previous good ideas.

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    2 months ago

    The problem isn’t just plastic, it’s the long supply chains. Let’s take juice bottles, you stop using plastic, what do you use? Single use glass isn’t good either, it takes a lot of energy to recycle it, way more than plastic (not that we are actually able to recycle plastic), metal cans are probably a bit better but they also have their energy costs. Reusable glass is the best, but it still has to be moved by heavy truck back and forth from the bottling plant.

    We need to start rethinking distribution.

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        Nah… We tried that. It wasn’t practical. All shops were required to collect glass bottles from customers. You then had to transport them to cleaning facilities. Before transporting them to the breweries. Then back to the stores. And you had to have special crates for transporting the bottles. Since the number of bottles received wasn’t the same as the number of bottles sold, you also had to distribute those crates between stores.

        Here we ended up recycling all the plastic and aluminium bottles. They are shredded in the store to make transport efficient. Then transported to the recycling facility. Here about 90% of all bottles are recycled.