Probably because beehaw aggressively defederates from any annoying instances.
I would say Lemmy and the lemmy apps are currently set up to funnel as many users into any communities as possible, because there are so little people on here.
I usually browse rising (of all communties I haven’t blocked) so there is enough content. I imagine many people are doing the same.
The only fixes I see is when 1) Lemmy gets more users, 2) defederating aggressively or 3) heavy moderation or 4) having “high effort” barriers to posting in communities (for example: must have X much karma or write a message to the mods to post).
All my experiences on the privacy communties were that 10x more people from outside comment and are angry that I want more privacy. Which kind of defeats the point of communties. At the moment communities act more like topic tags that categorize posts, not as real communities.
Lemmy is pretty good for what it is, but it needs many changes to survive into the future, to operate more like how it was intended.
Yeah, I agree. And I really appreciate your perspective.
I don’t think growing Lemmy and funnelling in users works out. We don’t grow. We’re somewhere between 40k and 50k active users and there is no trend in either direction.
Last year, I despised beehaw for doing their own thing and not respecting how federation is supposed to work. That is connecting people and not being a patchwork of small spaces that don’t talk to each other because of small minds/perspectives… I think I changed my mind a bit. Their way of doing things turned out to foster better behaviour than on other instances. It’s still detrimental to the idea of a federated platform, but still… The effects aren’t just negative.
I think we have lots of issues here. The culture is a bit different from what I’d like it to be. Furthermore, it’s too much discussing the news and not much else that’d be meaningful for my life. It’s too small for lots of things that this place could excel in and that you won’t find anywhere else.
And the technology really isn’t that good. Progress is super slow, they don’t implement the things the users need and wish for. And it doesn’t foster growth or nice behaviour.
And I think that’s the main issue. We’d need a solid basis to build something upon. It needs to be shiny, have excellent moderation tools and user-facing features. All of this has been requested but except for things like instance blocking by the user, that doesn’t even block their users, we didn’t get much.
My personal wish is that new approaches like PieFed will go ahead and provide that to us. I think I’d like to host an instance with that and then invite some people. As of now I didn’t advertise for Lemmy because I think neither the software, nor the atmosphere/community, nor the content here is worth convincing anyone to join. At this point I’m just waiting for one of the three to get anywhere.
Probably because beehaw aggressively defederates from any annoying instances.
I would say Lemmy and the lemmy apps are currently set up to funnel as many users into any communities as possible, because there are so little people on here.
I usually browse rising (of all communties I haven’t blocked) so there is enough content. I imagine many people are doing the same.
The only fixes I see is when 1) Lemmy gets more users, 2) defederating aggressively or 3) heavy moderation or 4) having “high effort” barriers to posting in communities (for example: must have X much karma or write a message to the mods to post).
All my experiences on the privacy communties were that 10x more people from outside comment and are angry that I want more privacy. Which kind of defeats the point of communties. At the moment communities act more like topic tags that categorize posts, not as real communities.
Lemmy is pretty good for what it is, but it needs many changes to survive into the future, to operate more like how it was intended.
Yeah, I agree. And I really appreciate your perspective.
I don’t think growing Lemmy and funnelling in users works out. We don’t grow. We’re somewhere between 40k and 50k active users and there is no trend in either direction.
Last year, I despised beehaw for doing their own thing and not respecting how federation is supposed to work. That is connecting people and not being a patchwork of small spaces that don’t talk to each other because of small minds/perspectives… I think I changed my mind a bit. Their way of doing things turned out to foster better behaviour than on other instances. It’s still detrimental to the idea of a federated platform, but still… The effects aren’t just negative.
I think we have lots of issues here. The culture is a bit different from what I’d like it to be. Furthermore, it’s too much discussing the news and not much else that’d be meaningful for my life. It’s too small for lots of things that this place could excel in and that you won’t find anywhere else.
And the technology really isn’t that good. Progress is super slow, they don’t implement the things the users need and wish for. And it doesn’t foster growth or nice behaviour.
And I think that’s the main issue. We’d need a solid basis to build something upon. It needs to be shiny, have excellent moderation tools and user-facing features. All of this has been requested but except for things like instance blocking by the user, that doesn’t even block their users, we didn’t get much.
My personal wish is that new approaches like PieFed will go ahead and provide that to us. I think I’d like to host an instance with that and then invite some people. As of now I didn’t advertise for Lemmy because I think neither the software, nor the atmosphere/community, nor the content here is worth convincing anyone to join. At this point I’m just waiting for one of the three to get anywhere.