• TokenBoomer@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Why are we assuming aliens use money Seth? They may share resources and have some type of techno communism that allowed them to travel space. A senior astronomer? He’s an administrative government spokesman who probably hasn’t scienced in years.

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      11 months ago

      Why are we assuming they use rockets, when no UAP ever has functioned even remotely like a rocket?

      At some point these interviews sound intentionally stupid

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        11 months ago

        They are intentionally stupid. It’s just not a conscious intention.

        People suppress the recognition of the obvious, because the implications are deeply disturbing.

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      in this context, “money” is just a placeholder for concentrated, organized effort. its fine to speculate on what an advanced society is capable of, but extraordinary claims still require extaordinary evidence and we have none. as far as we know, even hypothetical aliens still have to obey the known laws of physics.

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        11 months ago

        I understand what you mean, I thing the Kardashev scale is useful to put it in a perspective beyond dollars or even workhours.

        extaordinary evidence and we have none.

        None that we, the public, are aware of. Whether or not one consider a cover-up plausible is a bigger discussion. According to the latest whispers shouts in Washington, there’s quite a lot more. What’s your impression of Grusch, the UFO whistleblower?

        aliens still have to obey the known laws of physics.

        I absolutely agree. But maybe we have a differing point of view on our knowledge… Would you say that we understand the universe to the point where we can exclude any significant further discoveries that would transform our understanding of physics?

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      I personally believe that IF UAPs indeed represent extraterrestrial life, they are likely so advanced that energy probably holds no monetary value for them at this stage. There is so much energy in the universe; perhaps they’ve reached a point where they can harness any amount of energy whenever they wish.

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        11 months ago

        There’s still an anomalous area in space that’s been hypothesized to be a Dyson Swarm, so, you never know maybe they came from there.

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        11 months ago

        The Us Navy patented a device involving microwaves between two sheets of nickel or something. The device (according to the patent) produces about as much power as 100 hydrogen bomb explosions per second.

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          That’s very interesting. If you’re able to find a link to the patent, be sure to share it!

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              Yes, I’ve encountered this before. Thank you for your response. I wasn’t entirely sure which patent you were referencing. You’re correct; it does read like science fiction. The inventor is listed as Dr. Salvatore Cezar Pais.

              You might find this post interesting. It establishes some intriguing connections between Dr. Pais’ patents and the LK-99 superconductor.