• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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      1 year ago

      I never said it’s not dramatic, I said that your argument that “people are alive today because X” doesn’t hold much water because others died so they’re alive. Go tell the family of those who died that their brother/sister/parent had to die to save people in another country.

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          1 year ago

          Tell me, what two days during WW2 did the Germans lose over 100k civilians uninvolved in the war in a couple of seconds? 🤔

          The situations aren’t that comparable if we’re being honest with ourselves.

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              1 year ago

              So you take responsibility for all decisions taken by your government then?

              I’ll just ignore the ridiculous bit after that.

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                That’s part of the social contract, man. It doesn’t mean that every time your government kills someone, you’re guilty of murder, but it does mean that we all bear some culpability for the actions of governments we live under, barring an actual attempt to break allegiance with that government.

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                  So would you tell the people who were in the Japanese anti war movement that they should have done more or is there a point where you accept that sometimes the system is just too big for citizens to stop it?

                  It’s easy to act like a hero behind a keyboard, when confronted to the prospect of having to choose between our life and the life of a stranger in another country, the vast, vast majority will sacrifice the stranger and if I had to bet on it I would bet you would do the same because the odds would be in my favor. Heck, it’s a choice we make every day by purchasing crap made in third world country instead of spending more on stuff made locally, including whatever device you’re typing on.

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                    And that necessitates that I take some responsibility for those choices, including the ire of those wronged by the actions of my society. And the greater the wrong, the greater the retribution one must expect.