An old post from Caroline Ellison’s tumblr, since deleted.
EA is not a religion. Anyway, here are some pros / cons to marrying outside the religion.
…the less committed end of the EA spectrum (do you sneak dairy products when no one’s looking? fantasize about owning a yacht?)
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a yacht to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
This starts out 100% indistinguishable from an April Fools post to the point where I had to check the archive date.
Actually looking back is maybe is satire in that annoying half-serious way (check out the nonsense hyperlinks destinations where the “humor” is a bit more obvious)
Also was I just shamed by someone who was in the environmentally horrifying bitcoin industry for keeping dry milk in my cupboard? No thank you.
This definitely reads like the tedious “april fools” posts where you can tell they are actually 90% serious but want the cover of a joke.
Exactly
Also was I just shamed by someone who was in the environmentally horrifying bitcoin industry for keeping dry milk in my cupboard? No thank you.
For the win!
Come on, this is obvious satire, it is basically page from EA talking about 10.000 hours shit and find replacing a few words. Even the notes call it out as satire.
Of course satire is dumb, as it always is a signal towards the incrowd and a lot of the times backfires spectacularly (see starship troopers the movie (the book does the other thing, it is intended as serious, but the arguments are so bad that you can read it as 'this is the story of a dumb failson who gets more and more taken in by propaganda, as he fails to see (or intentionally fails to see, which is part of the book re the whole hitting Zim in the face thing, which only ‘occurs’ after the guy admits he did it, and not when Zim is walking around with a huge black eye) how he is being manipulated and the system is being used to get rid of people smarter than him by moving them into more dangerous warzones). Anyway back to the movie, intended as a satire of fascist militarism, but now constantly smugly repeated by actual fascists/far right bs mongers). It always amazes me a bit that the Rationalists don’t talk about how dumb it is to use satire more. (vs all their other meta level stuff about how people disagree and discuss things and who should and should not be allowed to speak) I think it is probably because satire can be so fun, and it is intellectually rewarding to get it while people you dislike don’t get it. Sorry, this rant was sponsored by Helldiverse (im leaving that typo in)! Democracy!
I mean maybe if their serious beliefs weren’t all so absurd I’d have an easier time distinguishing those from satire absurd beliefs 🤷♀️
What you don’t think the rokos basilisk or becoming a billionaire to steal from the common people to give to the underpants gnomes is a good idea?
(I was wondering randomly, SBF tried to pull a ‘but im so ethical, I meant so well’ in his trial, did he actually give money to good causes, or was that still the step after 2:??? of his master plan?)
ponzi-money-spending.docx:
- A $35 million Bahamas penthouse office including private chef and pharmacist
- Celebrity TV ads and the FTX arena
- Private jets, real estate, luxury cars, and a yacht
- $100 million between both US political parties, other political donations (this story looks wild, haven’t read it yet)
- VIP parties to rub shoulders with the rich, famous, and politically connected.
- Donations to various EA groups, as well as some guy writing questions for prediction markets
- Donations to museums, universities
- Unfortunately the $200k donation to Rajalakshmi Children Foundation never went through before FTX had a teensie liquidity issue.
- Gifts for his own family (how sweet :)
Overall the reporting on this is pretty scattered. I didn’t find any one article that covered every knowable donation.
He certainly wasn’t truly invested in criming for the good of the world (as long as you don’t count ponzi victims as part of the world); because if he was he’d have run a much tighter ship.
He cultivated an image of scruffy philanthropist uninterested in worldly things, and for some reason the media ate this up. Meanwhile he was making conscious decisions to keep his criminal enterprise going as long as possible so he could keep living a life of nerdy luxury before it all came crashing down.
the Carrick Flynn story is hilariously sneerable, yes
If Caroline Ellison hadn’t been in an actual relationship with a “high net-worth individual” I would have said it was just straightforward satire, but given the context I think she’s using mask of irony to pretend she isn’t revealing her true self.
Her words may be satirical, but her actions were more like “this but unironically”.
I’d say it’s half-serious satire; she did end up dating a “high net-worth individual”, after all.
Given that Ellison star-witnessed her ex into >200000 hours in the clink, I dread to think of what might happen to the person that marries her
tired: polyamory on a basis of mutual love
wired: neoreactionary harem with stack rankingneoreactionary harem with stack ranking
Please don’t remind me about my miserable time on dating apps.
we told you, urbit is not a dating app!
Counterpoint: it’s not not a dating app
oh fuck there’s definitely an urbit dating app isn’t there
these weirdos always use their fucked up platforms to implement insular dating apps
You’ve probably just spoken it into existence, friend
JWZ once said that every platform eventually evolves into being able to send email and allowing its users to flirt and hook up. I dunno if Urbit has reached that stage.
It is not? The search for ‘what are we actually going to use this for?’ continues.
the only functionality is a text forum, so it almost certainly is, yeah
counterpoint: every form of communication can be made into a dating app if you’re horny enough
I know someone that met their long-term partner in the chat of words with friends.
i met my wife on netgoth IRC, so
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making a bunch of typos because my hands are too sweaty to operate the Morse code paddle
people would try to pick each other up over ham radio and have others break in to remind them that a large portion of the globe could hear them
“radio amateurs are waiting on your call. come play my lord”
god I’m imagining how this all must have went given the personalities of some of the radio hams I’ve known
i’m 100% sure this happened but like, in interbellum
also, there’s MGM for that, or iambic key if you’re a purist. or some digimodes can send plaintext which is basically primitive and slow chat
@dgerard @sneerclub YET!
neoreactionary harem with stack ranking
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh.
straight out of Caroline’s tumblr
That’s fair, us mutual love and respect polyamorists are old and boring.
ya know how the failure mode of polyamory is when the cis straight guys try running things? yeah, welcome to rationalism
Oh I’ve been to that event before. Angry lesbians came to the rescue then. Unfortunately I don’t think any of us want to deal with rationalists. Maybe they could get some angry bi ladies, I hear they do in a pinch.
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I think that this is probably a parody but it honestly sounds like excellent life advice.
WTF is an “EA”?
Didn’t people learn in high school that if you use Initials or an acronym you need to define it after the first use?
I’m seeing more and more of this sort of sloppy writing with little or no consideration for the reader without intimate knowledge of the writers’ niche wank genre.
if only literally the fucking sidebar of the sub had a link explaining precisely what this was all about
@dgerard If you’re looking at awful.systems via a Mastodon client you never see the sidebar. Or even any indication that it isn’t a Mastodon server.
i would say in that case “sucks to be them” and “their refund is enclosed”
it’s not a dot less pointless and obnoxious in that context either
“halt your conversation and explain yourself to me, whoever the fuck I am, right this instant” is also an utter shithead move on mastodon
And I’m right here!
So a post appears in ‘ALL’ and I click on it. I’m not an aficionado of ‘sneer club’ so I don’t know what it’s about.
I’ve now gone through to the sidebar and I’m left rather uninformed due to the purposely opaque cliquey in-joke nature of the text there. I mean, those are definitely words, I’ll give you that.
The link at the top doesn’t help because i don’t have time to parse a whole article when a 10 word summation of the community would do.
But thanks.
The link at the top doesn’t help because i don’t have time to parse a whole article when a 10 word summation of the community would do.
you sure did have time to write a 150 word micro-essay about why you’re a bannable dickhead though
for anyone else who stumbles on our threads from all and is (justifiably) confused: please for the love of fuck lurk before posting a demand that we do labor for you
if you’ve lurked and searched TESCREAL and Eliezer Yudkowsky and other shit from the sidebar and you still need clarification, maybe posting a shitty rant in the style of someone’s dad about how kids these days don’t stop and explain themselves to their elders in a random thread is the wrong move
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The failure mode of clever continues to be asshole.
I resemble that remark.
It’s a lousy bit, because if you’re going to do a goddamn “crocus” joke about hundreds of people being shot at a concert, you should obviously make the pun about Swiss heavy metal legends “Krokus.”
it’s gone by now, what was there
a deeply shitty joke??? observation??? about how a crocus is a flower and therefore how could it be the subject of a terror attack?
completely indistinguishable from all the other posts in their history, all of which were made by reading the title of the thread and posting the first garbage that came to mind
Yeah, not one of my better ones. I’ve deleted it.
I was having a shit, but my point still stands.
Why not just put a single sentence at the top saying “This community is a discussion of Effective Altruism.” (Or whateverthefuck it’s about, I’m still not clear)
And then your oh-so-clever in-jokes can flow beneath.
It’s not difficult. But god forbid you actually INFORM people without being assholes about it.
Oh wait! Sorry.
SNEER club. You only want to SNEER at people not IN THE CLUB.
My bad.
Happy to block community. Byeeeee!
so in effect you went to some random forum you had never heard of, read one post in it, didn’t click around or anything, and replied “I DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON. DO BETTER”
I’m going to take a guess and say it’s “effective altruism”. Maybe???
OK. Sounds good.
