• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    Anyone to the left of the DNC leadership: constructively criticizes Joe Biden

    Biden stans: You love Trump, don’t you?

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      On the other side of this, what I find really common is anyone who acknowledges the reality of how the US voting structure works is seen as a Biden Stan

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        “Hey maybe we should just elect the most popular candidate instead of potentially not electing the most popular candidate”

        “HAHA LOOK AT THE LIBTARD”

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          First of all: least unpopular. Neither of them are very popular and most people would prefer that neither of them were amongst the two options.

          Second, valid criticism ≠ voting against, not voting or telling anyone to do either.

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        Nothing wrong about acknowledging the reality of the system being a broken dichotomy, of course.

        I’m talking about the people who shut down all valid criticism with the “but Trump is worse” whataboutism or “stop giving Trump ammunition” as if anyone sane didn’t already know Trump is awful and as if the Mango Mussolini wouldn’t just make shit up regardless…

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        If you think voting the DNC will fix anything YOU don’t understand how the US voting structure works

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          Eating won’t fix cancer, so don’t bother.

          My guy: sometimes you do things to prevent new problems. Making nothing better still beats making everything worse.

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              > Republicans get elected and cause problems

              > “How could the DNC do this?! Now I’m not gonna vote for Democrats!”

              Fuck off.

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                  A Republican appointed the judges that did the thing, which was only possible because another Republican singlehandedly created vacancies at every level, and your trolling ass wants to cleverly investigate who got elected after the fix was in.

                  None of which would have been possible if more people voted for Democrats.

                  We would now need more Democrats elected to fix it, than we would have needed to stop it. Even if we somehow get that, god willing, but then they don’t fix it, their presence will stop Republicans from making it EVEN WORSE.

                  But you’re not listening to a goddamn word of this because you just want to go “both sides” and jerk off about the moral superiority of your complete worthless inaction.

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        That’s because it’s a common argument of Biden stans. It’s pretty telling that they can’t think of anything good to say about their candidate, so instead it’s this stuff.

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          There’s a lot of good and bad.

          Bad - Supporting Israel financially, forcing the rail workers back to work from their strike, his environmental policies seem half hearted.

          Good - Forgiving large amounts of student loan debt, having his cabinet work with the DEA at reclassifing weed while promoting the idea publically, putting billions into Urban reconstruction to help cities become less dependent on roads and more accessible for the least fortunate.

          It’s more nuanced than he’s great or awful. He’s just better. As it often ends up coming to in American politics.

          As an aside I long for multi choice voting.

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            Ok I’ve seen sources for the bad. Do you have sources for good that actually involve his intervention? I refer to the fact that the loan debt cancellations so far would have happened under any other administration. I ask what actual progress has the DEA undertaken if we are still having same discussion after four years. I refer to the “American Rescue Plan” being a literal extension of the “CARES Act” (So again not his plan). Please tell me what he has done that would not have been accomplished by a plank of wood?

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          an incredibly obsessed fan, usually to an unhealthy degree, but often used ironically to just mean “big fan”. named after the character stan from the eminem song stan.

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          It’s basically a synonym for simp.

          “an overzealous or obsessive fan of a particular person or thing”

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        Yeah, but people also have blinders as to how the actual voting structure works. If you’re in CA/NY for dems or AL/MS for repubs, your vote basically doesn’t matter since those places will go blue/red no matter what, so you’re 100% free to vote for the person/platform you actually like! Any insinuation that you might vote for someone other than Biden is met with immediate scorn and ridicule.

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    Sorry, but no. Lemmy is an echo chamber. If one server likes pancakes and another server likes waffles, they’ll just defederate.

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      ‘So you think [some made-up bullshit]?’ ‘Fuck off.’ And then a mod comes in and goes ‘How dare you be rude to that smug liar.’

      When the correct moderator action is often ‘Yeah, fuck off.’

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        actually yes i love trains and hate airplanes at almost every facet of the comparison, thank you for noticing

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        OH SO YOU THINK PEOPLE SHOULDN’T HAVE PRIVATE TRANSPORTATION? You want to keep people imprisoned in their 15 minute cities? ^heavy ^/s

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    Me: maybe consider your ability to love a child as part of your “can I afford a child” criteria.

    Reddit: so it doesn’t matter if we can’t even afford to feed ourselves because “all you need is love”?

    Me: b1tch that’s a whole other sentence

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      so you’re saying my other posts weren’t on the nose? 😧 geez ok ill try to do better

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      wow can’t believe you hate people of color and have no sense of humor, what a combo 🫤

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    Is it the only place if this same thing is posted on every social media platform in existence with the name of that platform edited in?

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      nah they fixed it on twitter tumblr and reddit in the latest patches it’s just lemmy now

  • Empathy [he/him]@beehaw.org
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    Two days ago, I wouldn’t have felt particularly strongly about this sentiment, but my last few comments yesterday had some interesting interpretations…