• kn0wmad1c@programming.dev
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    8 months ago

    Hey remember that time when Trump’s biggest campaign promise was that he’d build a wall and have Mexico pay for it?
    Or how about the time Trump said he’d arrest all the homeless people?
    Or hey what about the time he promised to build freedom cities where free from government regulations?
    Or what about that time he said he would go after colleges he didn’t like?

    Biden mostly kept his promises, but also it’s sometimes better when they don’t.

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      8 months ago

      Hey, remember that time during John Quincy Adams’ presidency when he advocated for the abolition of the slave trade?
      Or how about the time he vetoed a bill to reauthorize the Second Bank of the United States because he believed in limited government intervention in business affairs?
      Or hey, what about that period when he strongly pushed for the independence of Spanish colonies in Latin America?
      Or what about the time he proposed a “Monroe Doctrine” which essentially stated that further efforts by European nations to colonize land or interfere with states in North or South America would be viewed as acts of aggression, requiring U.S. intervention?

      Adams mostly stuck to his principles, but also, it could be argued that there were times when his decisions weren’t entirely beneficial to everyone.

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      8 months ago

      I remember that time Trump almost died of covid, but he receive a “miracle” treatment that he promised he’d make available for everyone. Lol

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      8 months ago

      Yeah dude, trump sucks. So does Biden, who we’re currently talking about. Record oil production, record homelessness, twice as many migrants detained at the border, supplying weapons to a country engaged in a genocide. Any thoughts?

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        8 months ago

        Biden is a politician trying to get re-elected.

        It’s kinda just that simple. He’s only kind of a leader. He’s more of a “What will the polls say in November” kinda guy. It’s why he got a lot of good things done and it’s why he’s far from perfect to many of us.

        It’s also why he seems to be one of the rare people who can poll, as an individual, well enough against Trump.

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          8 months ago

          The very last thing we needed was business as usual neoliberalism. We have passed some crazy climate tipping points and we need radical change 50 years ago. Donald trump is an imbecile, but he’s a symptom of your broken culture. From an outsider looking in, he personifies every American stereotype there is. The fact that he is taken seriously as a candidate is baffling. He should have been hanged for treason lol.

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            https://www.reuters.com/world/us/enthusiasm-wanes-among-black-voters-who-powered-bidens-2020-georgia-win-2024-03-11/

            How does one reconcile the fact that Black and Hispanic voters are dropping off the Democratic party? Is it possibly because of failed policies? Is it possible Trump is getting more voters because of the representation of something people resonate with, versus the current status quo: measles outbreaks, welfare states, economic failures (inflation, everyone in the US is losing in this equation except the top 1%), the list goes on but the idea is still the same… an old failing man in office who needs to be removed.

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              @TangledHyphae @Nudding US voters have been very effectively conditioned to accept the two party system and to place outsized importance on the president and largely ignore the legislative and judicial branches of government. If you’re not happy, your only answer is to vote for the major party not occupying the White House, even if that party currently controls congress and offers even worse policies. Critical thinking is systematically squashed.

            • yessikg@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              8 months ago

              Some people are single issue voters that are missing the very big signs that Trump wants to be a dictator

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                Some people live in poverty, who are not being heard, while more poverty-stricken people are being moved into their neighborhoods. These topics impact literally everyone at every demographic level so it’s easier to understand why minorities are jumping ship.

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        8 months ago

        I’m not defending Biden, so don’t treat this as me trying to convince you either way or like I actually like Biden which I don’t because he is a republican masquerading as a centrist, but Biden did indefinitely halt giving oil companies LNG export terminal contracts in the US. In other words, no more infrastructure dedicated to LNG export until the entire process is reviewed and even if it becomes allowed again it will likely be much more limited.

        Now this didn’t immediately seem huge to me, but Bill Mckibben who is a climate writer seems to think this is one of the biggest environmental wins of the Biden administration. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/07/joe-biden-big-oil-lng-permits

        All this being said, I don’t disagree with the spirit of what you are saying about Biden, he is an awful relic of the past with absolutely no vision or policy goals behind manage the status quo.

        Also yeah obviously Fuck Trump

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        8 months ago

        It’s the degree of sucking that matters. Dismissing him as just empty promises should be taken in context. Many promises kept. Opponent in election, many more empty promises. It’s not whataboutism when the criticism is addressed, then it’s just comparative.