Oregon Passes 'Right to Repair' Law With Extra Cojones - FOSS Force
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Oregon's "right to repair" bill that's waiting for the governors signature, has teeth not found in similar legislation from other states.
    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      151·
      7 months ago

      Balls and teeth, but no game systems, farm equipment, anything with an engine (ice), or…electric toothbrushes. All exempt.

      • los_chill@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        7 months ago

        This is strangely relevant for me. Been trying to fix my expensive Sonicare for a few weeks now. Finally gave up and bought the cheapest knock-off. Left me with a bad taste…

        • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          2·
          7 months ago

          4 years ago off meh.com I got a cheap electric high-speed toothbrush that came with 12 replacement heads. I’m still using it, and it still works great. I actually only replace the head about once a year (I sanitize it more often than that) but it’s been awesome for the $30 I spent on it. 5/5 stars.

  • billwashere@lemmy.worldEnglish
    311·
    7 months ago

    Hopefully this sort of infects the entire system and causes major companies to essentially give these rights to everyone. It’s not like Apple or Samsung is going to ban products for an entire state… well hopefully.

    • CaptainProton@lemmy.worldEnglish
      91·
      7 months ago

      It’s Oregon, with a population of a whopping 4 million across the entire state, so you know what, maybe actually cheaper to cut the state off than to establish DIY supply chain for repairs parts that will undercut your whole product portfolio.

      • KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        Good luck cutting off Oregon from hardware available in the rest of the states. Cutting off one state poses the same issue as gun legislation or sugar tax in a specific city, people just go to the next state over. And you very likely can’t just say “well sorry, that wasn’t sold in Oregon so that law doesn’t apply.”

        They’d need to kill off the entire US market.

        • CaptainProton@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          6 months ago

          They just need to provide zero customer support, no updates to IP addresses in Oregon, etc. No need to prevent people from using devices they own, just stop transacting.

  • ALavaPulsar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    291·
    7 months ago

    This is super great to see. Normally my home state just follows whatever California passes since we’re a much smaller market, but this time they’re really moving things forward for consumer repairability.

    Also, just really reinforces how much I hate Kathy Hochul for absolutely neutering NY’s right to repair bill. Glad I don’t have her as my governor anymore.

    • Cosmic Cleric@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      7 months ago

      No one has any insights into the politics of the governor, and the odds of him/her actually signing this?

  • cley_faye@lemmy.worldEnglish
    192·
    7 months ago

    I can’t wait to see the innovative and creative ways Apple will find to create new forms of nightmare for consumers following that.

  • tsonfeir@lemm.eeEnglish
    141·
    7 months ago

    I’m staring at “Coh-Jones” for a good minute feeling really confused. Now I just feel really dumb. 🥜

    • ShepherdPie@midwest.socialEnglish
      34·
      7 months ago

      Did OP edit the title cause it’s correct now with “cojones” which refers to the co-Jones Brothers who had a lot of balls and took risks with their business ventures in 1892.

      • tsonfeir@lemm.eeEnglish
        9·
        7 months ago

        The term “cojones” originates from the Spanish word “cojón,” which literally means “testicle.” Its use as slang for courage or bravery likely comes from the association of masculinity with these traits, a concept that is prevalent in many cultures. This connection between physical attributes and perceived psychological or moral qualities is common across languages. The exact historical origin point or the first use of “cojones” in this context is difficult to pinpoint, as slang terms often evolve in spoken language before they are recorded in written texts.

        In Spanish, “cojones” is a plural noun, and its adaptation into other languages, including English, retains its plural form and its informal, often vulgar connotation. The word’s use to signify courage or boldness reflects a broader metaphorical trend where physical attributes are used to symbolize character traits.

    • laxe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      7 months ago

      While Apple has many issues, their support of older phones is really good. You can replace the battery once and still use the same phone for at least 5-6 years.

      My current phone is 4.5 years old and still going strong, with latest software versions.

      • umbrella@lemmy.mlEnglish
        81·
        7 months ago

        we shoudnt depend on the goodwill of a corporation tho.

        phones should be as standardized and open as computers so it doesnt really depend on them.

          • BorgDrone@lemmy.oneEnglish
            83·
            7 months ago

            That was not to get you to buy another phone, in fact the opposite. It was to keep your phone functional even though it had a worn out battery.

            In phones there is this concept called a ‘race to idle’. Basically, you want your phone to do nothing, because doing nothing uses very little energy. So when you do something on your phone, the goal is to do it as quickly as possible so it can go back to doing nothing and save battery. Your phone will be in this low-power idle state 99.999% of the time. You still want your phone to be responsive though, when you click on something you want it to respond without delay. That means that when you tell it to do something it has to go from this low power state back to a high speed state.

            Now, iOS is really aggressive in this, it ramps up the CPU speed really fast. As a result, the power draw of the CPU goes from almost nothing to a high power draw very quickly. This causes problems with old batteries. As a battery ages it not only loses capacity, but it also becomes slower to respond to changes in power draw. If the CPU needs a lot of power quickly and the battery can’t keep up you get a brownout (drop in voltage) and the phone basically crashes and reboots.

            So what Apple has done is that when iOS detects this happening (i.e. a crash due to the battery being unable to keep up), it will ramp up the CPU a little slower. Or to use a car analogy: they don’t change the top speed, but are less aggressive on the gas so it takes a little longer to get to that top speed. If you replace the battery it goes back to the original behavior.

            This is basically a good thing, the alternative is that your phone keeps crashing. Where they screwed up is that they failed to inform users of this.

        • TK420@lemmy.worldEnglish
          31·
          7 months ago

          It’s been like this for a very long time, but you gotta hate somewhere I guess

    • umbrella@lemmy.mlEnglish
      6·
      7 months ago

      standardization.

      PCs dont need the manufacturer (eg lenovo dell hp) to push updates to windows because the hardware is standardized and vendors cooperate to make windows interoperable.

      this should be a thing with phones. let me get any compatible os into it instead of locking and signing it to the oem’s ancient firmware. better yet, let me get android directly from google or whatever.

    • WallEx@feddit.de
      English
      2·
      7 months ago

      Why have this persons comments been deleted? They’ve got upvotes, so likely not that outlandish.

        • WallEx@feddit.de
          English
          2·
          7 months ago

          Oof, yeah, that is a lot. Good riddance.

          Also thanks for pointing that out, didn’t know modlog was a thing tbh.

          • GeneralVincent@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            6 months ago

            Yeah for sure, it’s super useful. Also interesting to see if and why your own comments get removed.

            Like the time I called someone a zionist shill, I kinda get. The first comment of mine that got removed was a pretty supportive pro-trans comment but maybe the mod thought I was being too aggressive toward the person I replied to? Anyways, love that there’s that transparency here

    • iopq@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32·
      7 months ago

      Google already offers 7 years

      If you want this, the market offered you solutions. I have a phone from 2019 that’s too slow, I would not want to use it in 2026 so I wouldn’t need 7 years of updates. They should not be forced on vendors who release budget phones

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.worldEnglish
    2·
    7 months ago

    Glueing iPhones and other devices together is do much better for business…you can’t fix it, and a robot can make it so you don’t need to work there and get paid part of the profit.

  • AVincentInSpace@pawb.socialEnglish
    79·
    7 months ago

    Louis Rossmann hasn’t uploaded a 20 minute video ranting about it yet so I’d say that’s a point in its favor

    I do agree with him on most topics esp right to repair but seriously when will that guy shut up

    • lemonmelon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      7 months ago

      Probably when measures that genuinely protect the right to repair are enacted on a wide scale.