European researchers said Thursday that the the start of June saw global surface air temperatures rise 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels for the first time. That is the limit governments said they would try to limit global warming to at a 2015 summit in Paris.

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    It’s either all or nothing or else you start to become hypocritical.

    We could summarize your entire comment as you not wanting to do anything yourself because you can’t easily do everything yourself.

    To rapid fire respond to the rest of it: investors are putting money into hydrogen and electric planes, they are putting money into lab grown meat, lab grown meat would not literally solve the problem (vegetables and grains would), and you can still enjoy life without eating a beef burger.

    If billionaires controlled either of us, do you think I’m more under their control by eating vegetables and chicken patties than you are eating the beef they sold you instead? Do you think billionaires wouldn’t profit off of you flying in an airplane more? Do you think climate friendly transportation options like public transit and cycling stand to make billionaires more money than the likes of cars and commercial flights? I feel like we’re more under corporate control ignoring climate advice than we are following it.

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      We could summarize your entire comment as you not wanting to do anything yourself because you can’t easily do everything yourself.

      So you’d be wrong. You can do things without reducing your quality of life to aid the rich which is 100% what you’re advocating for (because you’re a billionaire simp).

      To rapid fire respond to the rest of it: investors are putting money into hydrogen and electric planes, they are putting money into lab grown meat, lab grown meat would not literally solve the problem (vegetables and grains would), and you can still enjoy life without eating a beef burger.

      Ahhh yes, we should be barred from eating any and all meat, soy and bugs only, but the billionaires should still be able to enjoy steaks and burgers right? Also, why don’t you give up everything you enjoy? Cut off all of your streaming subscriptions because data centers are huge environmental concerns in of themselves! Sell your house because I am sure that’s bad for the planet somehow. You should be restricted to a pod all hours of the day that you’re not slaving away at your job! Actually, let’s go full bore, let’s fine you every single time you flatulate because that’s methane output and methane is bad! Nevermind that the vegan diet they’re going to force you on leads to more of that.

      Also, you clearly don’t know how dirty your average produce is lol lmao. How do you think you’re able to go to the grocery store and pick up a carrot no matter what part of the year it is? So following your ruleset, unless you want to be hypocritical, you should only be allowed to purchase veggies that are currently growing locally.

      If billionaires controlled either of us, do you think I’m more under their control by eating vegetables and chicken patties than you are eating the beef they sold you instead?

      So that would be you given you’re simping for them and playing right into their hand. Also, drop the disingenuous argument, we all know the likes of Gates aren’t the ones selling me a burger. People like those in the Mars family (one of the richest families in the food industry) aren’t jetsetting around telling us to have no enjoyment out of life.

      Do you think billionaires wouldn’t profit off of you flying in an airplane more?

      Again, not the same billionaires that would be enriched with my consumption. Though Bombardier’s CEO is on the climate virtue signal train just in case you needed some extra juicy irony, and I don’t exactly see him investing into selling a hydrogen powered private jet. I will never have any interaction with any one of their products.

      Do you think climate friendly transportation options like public transit and cycling stand to make billionaires more money than the likes of cars and commercial flights?

      This is where I think you fail to see the point entirely. It’s not about making them money, lol lmao, it’s about further enrichment of themselves at your detriment. Why do you think the people who can most afford the things that they demand us to do are the ones least likely to do them? Because 👏 it’s 👏 about 👏 control 👏 not 👏 about 👏 the 👏 climate. It’s why you see Gates enjoying a big juicy steak while at the same time telling you you don’t deserve to have a steak.

      I feel like we’re more under corporate control ignoring climate advice than we are following it.

      Just ignore the fact that climate activists were funded by corporations such as the oil corps.

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        Ahhh yes, we should be barred from eating any and all meat, soy and bugs only, but the billionaires should still be able to enjoy steaks and burgers right?

        I really, really don’t understand why you’ve latched on to bugs. Nor am I barring people from eating meat. I don’t have that power. What I do have the power to do is to buy less meat myself, especially beef, to reduce the quantity of it that we produce by that much more, and I’m encouraging you to do the same, because I genuinely believe your quality of life is determined by more than how much beef you eat, and I hope you do too. Also there are a lot of good veggie dishes to eat that don’t involve soy at all.

        It’s not about making them money, lol lmao, it’s about further enrichment of themselves at your detriment.

        Further enrichment of themselves would mean making more money. Billionaires really, really don’t care about what you eat unless they sold it to you themselves. Gates is not in the food business, and if he cares about what you ate, it’s also because of the climate. He will, however, care if you’re not using Windows or Bing or Xbox.

        I work with computers all day, and even I don’t see the world as binary as you do. I eat beef too. Sometimes. I try to do so far less these days. It’s not a detriment to my quality of life in the least bit. If I’m at a barbecue and all they have is beef burgers, I’m not going to refuse them, but if I’m at a Burger King, I’ll get the chicken sandwich or the Impossible burger. Every serving of beef I don’t eat is better than choosing to do so instead. I don’t excuse billionaires for flying in private jets, nor do I have the ability to stop them in any way; they’re certainly not in this thread for us to talk to. So in lieu of that, I know that I can at least reduce some amount of climate impact by my choices in the market. That doesn’t mean it’s reduced to zero. It means it’s reduced.

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        Except not eating dead animals doesn’t lessen a person’s quality of life.

        This idea that you are suffering because you ate a piece of tofu is absolute nonsense and I suspect somebody who figured out how to use the fediverse isn’t this daft.