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silence7@slrpnk.netM to Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.@slrpnk.netEnglish · 9 months ago
The article doesn’t go into it, but a key advantage they have is that heat pumps move heat, rather then trying to generate it. So they can move a lot more heat into your house than would be generated by running the electricity they use through a resistor. This makes them effectively more than 100% efficient (the exact amount depends on temperature) as compared with burning a fuel or resistive heat.
Hey, pedant here.
Air conditioners are heat pumps too, and it’s not the reversing valve that differentiates them. Heat pumps move heat, reversing valve let’s you decide which way to move it.
That’s exactly what I said. Air Conditioners are heat pumps which only pump one way.
No you said heat pumps are air conditioners which is wrong.
Heat pumps are a technology.
Some are used as air conditioners, some are used as heaters, some as both. Some are used for heating liquids, some are used for cooling foods. They simply move heat from one location to another, application and reversibility independent.
All heat pumps are air conditioners. Not all air conditioners are heat pumps.
Nah you’re arse about. It’d be like saying all internal combustion engines are generators.
Engines just drive things, like cars, generators, lawn mowers etc. They’re a technology for rotating something.
Heat pumps are just a technology for moving heat.
Not going to reply any further as unsure at this stage if you’re trolling. Literally just go read the Wikipedia page on heat pumps.
I like pedants. Is it correct that they’re not necessarily equally efficient in both directions? “Air conditioner” to transfer heat away, vs “heat pump” to transfer heat in? Even though both are heat pumps.
Sort of… It’s not so much down to it just not working as good at transferring heat, because the rules of thermodynamics applies… moving heat is moving heat.
But the devil’s in the details. If it’s below freezing the radiator will frost up and won’t work very good. But that problem is solved by temporarily reversing it to heat of the radiator to melt the frost off of it. These systems do this automatically. Freezing temperature is 273 Kelvin, so there is heat outside even when it’s below freezing so there’s always heat that can be pumped, but there are limits to it.
You don’t want to be dependent on a heat pump as the only source of heat for your house. But they build electric heaters into many models to handle those conditions. But obviously on really cold days that it needs to supplement the heating with the electric heater it’s not going to be all that efficient, because you’re running an electric heater on those days.
But most days it’s not going to need to turn on the electric heater, and on your cool spring and fall days it won’t even need to defrost. So when you consider it over the course of a year, the heating cost is way lower.
Thanks! I like you space cowboy.
High pressure refrigerants are making the temperature differential higher, so the need for resistive heating is going down.