• nac82@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    A huge portion of the goods that fills that distribution network is meat, ranches, and non vegan farms.

    You purposefully left out a key word on your food distribution network claim (vegan) and are playing dumb as a coping mechanism against reality.

    How are you going to replace all of that at scale before lunch?

    • Nevoic@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      8 months ago

      Are you unaware of how markets work? You’re pretending like the person you’re responding to is the arbiter of all food production and consumption. Buy vegan, more vegan food gets made. It’s been happening for decades and as the number of vegans climb, the amount of vegan food increases.

      There’s really nothing difficult to understand about that. If SO MANY PEOPLE go vegan that you literally go to the store and can’t find ANY vegan food (this won’t happen), then vegan food production will ramp up extremely fast, and this will only be a temporary issue as producers acclimate to new demands.

      • nac82@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        8 months ago

        This doesn’t change anything about the point I challenged.

        As of today, a bacon sandwich is a need u till you handle the issues of supply and demand or culture shift over time.

        • Nevoic@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          There’s no world where every person goes vegan “before lunch” today, you were arguing about a fantasy because that’s the only way you could make an almost coherent point.

          In your fantasy world where literally every person wakes up, realizes that paying for animal abuse because of taste preference is a moral abomination, then yeah we wouldn’t have enough vegan food easily accessible, but as all the vegan food would be perpetually out of stock, production would ramp up.

          In reality however, people in the first world have incredibly easy and consistent access to vegan food. Essentially if you get your food from a grocery store you have incredibly easy access to cheap vegan food. If you live in a place where food is more scarce, then your diet is already primarily vegetarian or vegan because that food is way, way cheaper to come by.

    • chetradley@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      An even greater portion is distributed as animal feed. In fact, 1/3 of crop production is fed to livestock at about a 10:1 calorie conversion. The land and resources exist, it’s just a matter of people realizing that animal products aren’t a necessity for much of the world. I also don’t recall anyone saying this change would have to occur immediately, it would obviously be a gradual transition.

    • Sizzler@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      All I’m hearing is you say, “unless we can do this in an instant it’s not possible”

      There’s already a vegan food distribution network lol, part of the food distribution network. You seem hostile to the simple idea of change for a greater level of humanity. Why?

    • occhineri@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      your food distribution network claim (vegan)

      You do realise that this is your own claim, right? Nobody else is talking specifically about vegan food, lol

      • nac82@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        Yes, it was my claim that he responded to and filtered a word from

        Good job, ypu found out what I’m talking about 👏