• oxjox@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      The problem we face is that they’re saying the exact same thing and no one wants to acknowledge the other and meet in the middle to negotiate.

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        There is no way to “meet in the middle” with fascists. It’s becoming a zero-sum game over every issue. If the fascists win, we all lose.

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          Your problem is you believe an entire political party is “fascist”. I can promise you this is not this case for the vast majority of Republicans. Republicans are not fascist by any stretch of the definition. So, like them, you are making assumptions about a cohort without ever taking the time to converse with them. You can disagree with me all you want but you’re just proving my point.

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            “By disagreeing with me, you prove me right” is some truly schoolyard level intelligence.

            Is Trump a fascist? Yes.

            Is Trump the de facto leader of the Republican party? Yes.

            If it walks like a duck…

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              Keyword: “de facto”. The GOP is lacking leadership just as badly as the Democratic Party is. (I’d go as far to say Biden is a better Republican leader than he is a Democrat.)

              It’s frightening to observe the assumptions people have of others based on headlines and video clips representing a small fraction of an immense community. What you read in “the news” and on social media does not represent the majority of Americans. If we don’t take the time to get to know each other, we are most certainly barreling towards a civil war. I mean, sure, lots of people are stupid but stupid doesn’t equate to evil and oppressive.

              We’ve already seen the pushback by republicans on abortion legislation and book banning and it was the Republican party who tried to keep Trump off the ballot. Trump and fascism does not represent the GOP.

              Unless you’re willing and able to get to know people who have different opinions than you and sit down and have a real exchange of ideas, you’re not a solution, you’re a problem.

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                Trump and fascism does not represent the GOP.

                It is up to the GOP to show this, not everybody else to act like it’s true.

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        Banning books and defunding educational institutions basically = 0

        Keeping things as they are currently, people can read, organizations can advocate basically = 1

        Centrists like you would slash the budget for all of them, ban half of all books, and close 50% of public libraries. But 50% of 1 is not halfway between 1 and zero…

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          LOL calling me a centrist. I’m just a level headed commie who actually believes in community and humanity.

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            Unfortunately, jackass conservatives don’t believe in such a thing. If they did, there wouldn’t even be a need to “meet in the middle” over actually banning literature.

            Meeting people in the middle works for things like “what should we spend tax money on”, because those are things that are not zero-sum - you can actually divide the pie up and make everyone reasonably happy. Conservatives are not happy until they have it 100% their way, as you’ve seen time and time again. You give them an inch, they take the whole damn yardstick.

            First it was “you can’t say gay”, then it was “you can’t ask what people want to be called”, and now it’s escalated again to “if you ask, you’re a literal sex offender”.

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              You’ve also just described the extreme left. The extremes of the political spectrum get a lot of the news and they’re both wrong and need to be put in check.

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                Bro most people aren’t the extreme left and leftist politicians aren’t enacting book bannings and banning people from talking about the fact that they exist in school.