• Demographics (She/Her) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 months ago

    Alternatively: Capitalism has robbed the working class of any time for exercise while simultaneously pushing food that is dirt cheap to make with artificial additives that lead to excess consumption.

    But that doesn’t fit the convenient narrative of “it’s all society’s fault,” which pushes all blame and need for action off the observer.

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      8 months ago

      Is there anything in the world this website won’t blame on capitalism?

      There are plenty of working class people that aren’t fat and there are plenty of rich people, or retirees, or unemployed that are fat.

      Being fat is about eating too much and not moving enough. People at some point need to take some responsibility for their actions.

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        8 months ago

        It’s pointless blaming the individual for a global crisis. Something systemic is to blame. And it really is a global crisis, it’s just more severe in some places.

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        Clearly because you don’t struggle with this thing, the struggles of others are invalid.

        Capitalism is significantly at fault because it pushes more and more food, makes cheap (read: affordable) food severely fattening, and creates industries that prey on people’s insecurities and entices them into all kinds of disordered eating. To say nothing about the general decline of physical and mental health caused by unfettered capitalism that often manifests as disordered eating.

        But yeah, eating too much is the only problem. Thanks I’m cured /s

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        As a non-fat person who doesn’t exercise consistently, it’s not that simple for the vast majority. There are a lot of factors including health/genetics and the stuff mentioned in the comment you responded to. I’m not skinny because I avoid meals, I’m skinny because I lucked out genetically and I really don’t have to worry about what I eat in terms of gaining weight.

        Also, avoiding meals is like the worst way to maintain your weight and you should stop implicitly recommending it. It’s just going fuck up your metabolism, nutrition, and ability to maintain your weight. Quality matters substantially more than quantity, and quality is prohibitively expensive for many.

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            I eat two meals a day. I drink mostly plain water, with some black coffee and unsweetened tea. I cut out soda over a decade ago and sweets are a rare luxury. I can’t afford to eat massive amounts of food even if I want to. So why am I still fat?

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            Quick guideline that’ll help you be more empathetic to the rest of humanity: other people’s experiences aren’t like yours. Their bodies behave differently, they have different socioeconomic statuses, their minds struggle with things yours finds easy and vice versa. So “skip a meal” is trivial for you and impossible for another. That’s why many different diets exist.

            Stop painting humanity with one brush just because you can’t see outside your own world view.

            Also: A chunk of human history where we skipped meals regularly also involved getting eaten by predators. Just because it was true in the past does not make it true now. Having access to calorie bombs 24/7 is normal now. And society hasn’t figured out how to deal with that. Some handle it fine, others handle it poorly.

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        Man shut the fuck up, shut up.

        A can of mountain dew is:

        • In America: 355 mL with 170 calories (0.49 kcal/mL)
        • In Germany: 330 mL with 95.7 calories (0.29 kcal/mL)

        Feast your eyes upon this and perhaps begin to question the dumb bullshit perspective that lives in your head.

        Yes Americans, you do deserve to be able to enjoy a soda without fucking your calorie intake up. Did I mention the german one uses real sugar and tastes way better, which makes it harder to drink in excess?

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        Food deserts exist, man. I’ve been there. Living in a shithole area with no shops supplying fresh foods, and no convenient transport links to such shops

        You’re probably just gonna go to the overpriced shop and buy processed crap, y’know?

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            If processed food is the only option, how exactly do you “just buy less of it”? Eat nothing? Be serious, dude.

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              I’ve had great success losing weight and saving money at Taco Bell.

              Reading the calories and reading the body’s signals are key. It took awhile for me to separate the craving for flavors from the pangs of genuine hunger.

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                Nutrition tho…

                The focus on weight, specifically, is a mistake. Health is far more than just weight. Eating junk food is bad, full stop, and will cause issues for health no matter your portions. This is the problem.

                Diabetes, risk of cancer, addiction, malnutrition, even mental health problems, all are risk factors on a diet of processed food, even so-called “healthy” diets.

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        Ah yes, thank you for your single data point. That’ll be sure to topple this mountain of evidence otherwise.

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        it’s not hard to

        People who say this almost always refuse to believe there can be any nuance to situations beyond their own limited experience.