• Malte@feddit.de
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    10 months ago

    This is not at all what I said and you are making assumptions that are not true. Like Israel is attacking unprovoked just for the sake of it? That’s bullshit. And Israel routinely kills random civilians out of cruelty? That’s simply not true. Yes civilians sometimes end up as collateral damage but it is never the direct intention. The IDF has processes in place to determine when and where to attack and every single one is based on intel and reasonable probability that legit combatants and targets are hit. Are they always right? Of course not. Do they accept civilian casualties if that can’t be avoided? Of course they do. That doesn’t change the fact that civilians are not attacked unprovoked just like that out of cruelty or in order to genocide them.

    The same can’t be said about Hamas music festival attacks and that precisely is the difference.

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      10 months ago

      agian Look up the Nakba, this has been a decades long genocide, nothing about what Hamas is doing is unprovoked, they are retalating aganst a DECADES LONG GENOCIDE

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        10 months ago

        Sorry but even if we assume somehow all other ways are exhausted and violence is your last resort, going after the kids and the festivalgoers is never justified under any circumstances. Maybe if Hamas wouldve directed the fight at the people that have bit to do with the situation like police or army who also use violence to enforce shitty policies.

        But with the way things are and the actions Hamas did I don’t have to think twice, I’ll side with Israel and IDF. They are not perfect but still the way way better option.

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          10 months ago

          So you will side with the people comitting a genocide. Your actions words and beliefs speak loudly about your charicter. History will speak volumes as you have firmly planted yourself on the wrong side of it. I hope that John Brown’s soul finds you and he does what he does best to the wicked, and to the oppressive forces, his soul goes marching on, and that should keep people the likes of you up at night.

          You cannot look at what Isn’treal has done, the strick calolery count, the slow march in, and tell me that this was not on the horison. You cannot tell me that the palistinians had any other choice, when your options are 1) do nothing and die or 2) stand up and maybe not die, it is only right and just that you fight back. This is not shitty desisions this is a genocide, it started back with the Nakba, and they are contenuing it now. Just because Hamas is not being civil about it, or peacfully protesting means nothing. I hope you some day can out grow your silly little civility politics and relise what is happening. I also hope you never have to even immagine going through a genocide, as the palistinians have done.

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            10 months ago

            That’s quite a big and hefty “just because”. And also shooting up a music festival is not “standing up to the fight”, there was no fight there at all. And also there are plenty of other options. If you don’t want to fight and risk your life, what about instead of going after the kids you just move elsewhere and maybe support the cause from exile, organizing opposition doing lobby work etc. I get that it is shitty to leave your place like this. But how is shooting up a music festival somehow the more reasonable option?