• Noxy@yiffit.net
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    9 months ago

    I argue it’s better to stop producing so much.

    Don’t blame consumers for consuming what’s placed in front of them. Blame the producers for producing collectively more shit than the entire population will ever need or want.

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        9 months ago

        I agree it’s both but they can do it without the other. Remember when all those copies of the ET videogame were dumped in a whole? It’s a weird example but they often create a lot of product that’s never sold. Likewise consumers will be extremely wasteful and fickle. Like how people won’t buy ugly fruits and veggies so instead ugly carrots are cut into baby carrots.

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          9 months ago

          Remember when all those copies of the ET videogame were dumped in a whole?

          No but I assume there was never an ET 2?

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      9 months ago

      Err….they definitely aren’t producing more than people want, or at least not enough to matter since they are making loads of money producing things….

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          9 months ago

          Not claiming they aren’t producing more than people need just that people seem to want more. There is a sure conversation around the psychology of enticing people to constantly buy buy buy and how lots of products are ‘disposable’ though

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            9 months ago

            So they are definitely producing more than people want? That conflicts with what you previously said.

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                9 months ago

                And I think people should buy fairphones. It’s a great idea and it needs to be a compelling phone to get more people to buy it.

                The problem is that ethics alone as a reason to buy is shit because it’s better to go used ethically.

                It’s the reusable grocery bag of phones as long as it’s not comparable to other phones.

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                  9 months ago

                  Oh yeah for sure. I want to see fairpjone succeed but you’re right about the ethical argument.

                  To be super clear, definitely don’t think all this is up to the consumer to change, more along government and systems probably.