"Dwarves who stand together are slightly taller than before"
    • BruceTwarzen@kbin.social
      1508·
      10 个月前

      I think the problem is that they don’t get awards even tho they are very good game and really amazing devs who love their games and playerbase. Last year read dead redemption won labour of love in the same category as drg was in 🤮

      • Toribor@corndog.socialEnglish
        137·
        10 个月前

        The Steam awards are a total joke. RDR, a game with zero content updates won labor of love. Starfield, a paint-by-number Bethesda RPG is most innovative. But it doesn’t matter because the awards don’t matter.

        • turmacar@lemmy.worldEnglish
          27·
          10 个月前

          I believe Starfield at least was brigading to prove the point that the awards are silly at best at this point.

          Did the job pretty well.

        • umbrella@lemmy.mlEnglish
          51·
          10 个月前

          RDR is awesome, but yeah, the devs were probably crunched and were dying to finish it so they could rest lol.

          • Sylvartas@lemmy.worldEnglish
            12·
            10 个月前

            Not even that. The suits at 2K publishing (and maybe on Rockstar’s board of directors too tbh) just decided that it wasn’t worth investing any development time in since it prints money less easily and more slowly than GTA online

        • kurcatovium@lemm.eeEnglish
          27·
          10 个月前

          It made about as much sense as Starfield winning the most innovative gameplay…

          • Triple_B@lemmy.zipEnglish
            141·
            10 个月前

            I think RDR and Starfield winning were ops planned by their respective communities. Like, these games are clearly neither of these things, yet they won. It’s seems intentional. Not on Valves part. I have no proof, of course. It’s just baffling.

            • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              11·
              10 个月前

              It’s just baffling

              How is it baffling? Gamers are “idiots” in the sense that memes are usually more important than useful communication. This post is exactly the same type of thing, a “dwarf” tag doesn’t really help communicate anything useful; am I more likely to want a “dwarf” game, or more likely to want a specific genre of game?

              Starfield and RDR won their respective categories because gamers like to meme about. It’s the same reason useless Steam reviews get highly upvoted, gamers like to meme about.

              • LucidNightmare@lemm.eeEnglish
                2·
                10 个月前

                I really do hate those goofy ass reviews.

                300 hours It’s okay I guess

                Wow. So helpful in helping me decide if I want to spend my hard earned money on this game.

                • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  7·
                  10 个月前

                  What’s even worse is the reviews like “I’m gay” that gets a ton of “helpful” awards. They’re easy to scroll past, but it’s indicative of the unhelpful nature of a lot of gamers.

                • dalekcaan@lemm.eeEnglish
                  2·
                  10 个月前

                  Not as bad as those asinine game guides that all say, “How to walk: press W lololol we’re all so funny and goofy 🤪” stfu that was funny maybe once at most, now the whole community is flooded with that stupid shit.

      • whereBeWaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        35·
        10 个月前

        Yeah steam awards were a joke but what does it have to do with a dwarf tag? Do they also want a dwarf category in steam awards?

        • cordlesslamp@lemmy.todayEnglish
          11·
          10 个月前

          Isn’t Steam awards are voted by users? So if anything, should the users (or rather, troll voters) be blamed?

          • Nelots@lemm.eeEnglish
            111·
            10 个月前

            Certainly trolls deserve quite a bit of the blame. But Steam is also to blame for allowing people to vote on games they’ve never even played before, and allowing games that haven’t been updated in over a year to be eligible for labor of love. When 5 games someone doesn’t own are the options, it just becomes a contest of which game is best known.

            • yildo@kbin.social
              9·
              10 个月前

              It’s why Pizza Pizza has a history of being voted as Toronto’s best pizza chain despite selling cardboard with red paint on it as food

          • LapGoat@pawb.socialEnglish
            5·
            10 个月前

            I mean by the nature of more popular games getting more votes, its just how this system will always play out.

      • freebee@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        3·
        10 个月前

        They ofcourse because it would put them at the top of some new to be category view and they think it will bring them more name and money

    • Maalus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      574·
      10 个月前

      They’re careful. They probably don’t want a tag, about which articles will be made, saying “valve evil they make fun of dwarfism”

    • dbaner@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      10 个月前

      I think the way tags work is that steam shows the most commonly used tags. But you can still add your own. If enough people add a dwarf tag then eventually it’ll start appearing as an option for other people.

  • Belgdore@lemm.eeEnglish
    7·
    10 个月前

    I think they want to avoid the abuse potential. It could be used to make fun of little people.

    • Jknaraa@lemmy.mlEnglish
      33·
      10 个月前

      Should have just said that it already has female dwarfs and refused to elaborate.

        • cynar@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          10 个月前

          For those confused, discworld dwarfs have both males and females. However, both are stocky and have beards. They also are very egalitarian regarding jobs etc. They long ago gave up correcting the surface races regarding their gender, who assume a burley minor in heavy armour, and a thick beard, is a male dwarf.

        • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          10 个月前

          The Tolkien way, too. Remember Gimli’s bit about people thinking there aren’t dwarf women because they can’t tell them from the men?

    • soviettaters@lemm.eeEnglish
      51·
      10 个月前

      It’s an indie game and they would have to hire new voice actors. Frankly, it doesn’t matter in the slightest.

    • Aabbcc@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      10 个月前

      Did you read the article? Are you familiar with the concept of tech debt? Sounds like they would have to put the rest of the game dev on hold for months if not a year to make progress, and they’re already known as a company with slow dev because they take care of their employees and don’t crunch.

      I mean I agree I want female dwarves in the game, but it’s literally millions of dollars to implement

      • NoFun4You@lemmy.worldEnglish
        03·
        10 个月前

        Except you can do it incrementally and just have a female dwarf that doesn’t support everything.

    • ryathal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      364·
      10 个月前

      I think it’s more that it’s a meaningless tag. Dwarf fortress and drg are totally different games. Do all games that have any amount of dwarves get this tag? Does LOTR count for Gimli, or total war Warhammer for having a Dwarf playable race, or elder scrolls for the dwemer which are dwarves?

      • Albbi@lemmy.caEnglish
        251·
        10 个月前

        As a huge dwarf lover, this would be great for me. I’ve loved playing dwarves ever since I played Golden Axe at the arcade. Whenever there’s a dwarf as a playable character I’m more interested in the game. In fact, I dislike Skyrim for having elves but no dwarves.

            • PopMyCop@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
              3·
              10 个月前

              Let me upset you further. Dwarves are just short humans, elves are just skinny humans, and orcs are just green humans. Halflings are human children, and gnomes are mischievous human children. We don’t talk about the aarakocra.

              • Albbi@lemmy.caEnglish
                2·
                10 个月前

                Such clearly incorrect information doesn’t bother me. It’s not like you said elves were better than dwarves. THAT would upset me.

      • wahming@monyet.ccEnglish
        71·
        10 个月前

        There are lots of tags about themes, not gameplay. This would be one more.

        • ryathal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          63·
          10 个月前

          Is Dwarf really a theme though? Even in theme the sci-fi drg isn’t really similar to traditional fantasy dwarves in Dwarf fortress.

          • wahming@monyet.ccEnglish
            41·
            10 个月前

            It doesn’t have to be the main theme, just something that’s present in the game. As some of the other commentors have shown, there would be people interested in tags like that, so why not?

            • trafficnab@lemmy.caEnglish
              5·
              10 个月前

              The article even says that in a similar vein there’s official vampire and werewolf tags

      • samwise@kbin.social
        229·
        10 个月前

        Assuming you’re asking from a place of wanting to know. “Dwarf” is a term that has been used in the past to describe little people or those suffering from dwarfism. It can be a negative word for some in that community and is tied to ableism in that way

        • turmacar@lemmy.worldEnglish
          26·
          10 个月前

          It’s also the preferred descriptor for some. I’ve had friends with dwarfism that thought “little people” was condescending as hell and hated it.

          None of this is ever black and white. Especially when it’s just interjecting into comments on the Internet talking about the fantasy race that’s either Jews with battle axes or persons from Svartálfheim.

          • lolcatnip@reddthat.comEnglish
            113·
            10 个月前

            The way Tolkien-style dwarves embody stereotypes about Jews makes me really uncomfortable. I’m glad I’m not the only one who sees it.

            • turmacar@lemmy.worldEnglish
              151·
              10 个月前

              It’s a mostly standard view of Tolkien scholarship. They’re much more a medieval view of jewishness then something straight racist like say, JK Rowling’s goblins. As makes sense for an Old English scholar like Tolkein.

              Ancient people, separated into familial tribes, outcast from their ancestral home, not really welcomed anywhere but tolerated some places, warrior poet tradition, noble ‘in their way’, beards, gold, noses.

              Sprinkle on some Norse/Germanic for flavor and there you go. Though then you can get into the side conversation of Yiddish being a Germanic dialect/language.

        • voracitude@lemmy.worldEnglish
          25·
          10 个月前

          Yeah, and it is also the name of a race of people from fantasy stories that were completely made up. Yes, fantasy races are based on human phenotypes. That doesn’t make the names of those races a slur.

        • BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social
          5·
          10 个月前

          From what I’ve heard, I think that is the officially accepted term from the community that most prefer, or am I behind the times?

        • juliebean@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          10 个月前

          honestly couldn’t they easily sidestep that whole can of worms by requesting a ‘dwarves’ tag instead

        • voracitude@lemmy.worldEnglish
          181·
          10 个月前

          I’m sorry, how is the exploitation of little people as a tourist attraction equivalent to fantasy dwarves? The first one is a reduction of human beings and the condition they live with to a sideshow curiosity; the second is a story that was made up for entertainment. I don’t see how the latter is related to the former.

          • mathemachristian[he]@lemm.eeEnglish
            311·
            10 个月前

            The tourist attraction is based on the stories. And the stories are based on little people being ascribe magical properties, like “rubbing their head brings luck” or someshit like that. The fantastical stories live in a real context. And a lot of the stories about dwarfs come from an ableist view on short people.

            • voracitude@lemmy.worldEnglish
              111·
              10 个月前

              Lots of fantasy creatures are based on a phenotype of human. Our ancestors didn’t know anything about anything so they made up a bunch of shit to explain it. If you plan to argue that the entire fantasy genre needs to go - no more elves, gnomes, halflings, hobbits, vampires, orcs, goblins, bugbears, etc - you’re gonna have a bad time.

              • mathemachristian[he]@lemm.eeEnglish
                211·
                10 个月前

                If you plan to argue that the entire fantasy genre needs to go

                yes, by valve not putting in “dwarf” as a tag to make it easier for its customers to search for games the entire fucking genre dies. Put ASoIaF fans on suicide watch lmfao

                • voracitude@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  72·
                  10 个月前

                  Hey, you’re the one saying the word “dwarf” is offensive. I’m just extending your logic, to illustrate for you why I think it’s a bad take. I’m glad you got it!

                  (Narrator: They didn’t get it.)

    • S410@kbin.social
      176·
      10 个月前

      I’m relatively short and wide in shoulders. Fuck me, I guess, for feeling represented?

      • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.worldEnglish
        56·
        10 个月前

        You should feel represented. And so should girl gamers who the Deep rock Devs have continually said aren’t worth the effort of even 1 female character.

          • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            10 个月前

            Are tall people literally half the human population? Are they a historically marginalized group? Is there an entire body of literature and studies examining the ways they are not repented in media?

    • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      9·
      10 个月前

      I don’t think it’s worth a downvote, but what’s the ableist connotation? It’s not a judgment of disabled people or dunking on people with dwarfism, it’s just a tag for a would-be genre of games.