• CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      I dont support the death penalty in any way (well, maybe guillotine)

      Its the vengeful right wing christofascists that love it. Unfortunately, they are overrepresented in our governments.

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        Guillotine is almost certainly worse than hypoxia; having nerves severed is agonizing. Having almost all of them severed would be insanely painful.

        That said, what if we just didn’t kill people. That would be cool.

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          I think they more mean the removal of corruption, not necessarily literally beheadings.

          At least I hope if they’re going to call the death penalty bad in principle. IMO, it’s good in principle, but completely untennable in practice in such an insanely flawed system working with just as flawed laws. I’m not sure a defensible system could exist. Not with modern humans.

          The irony of being too bad to properly purge the bad…

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          11 months ago

          If the nerves connected to the brain are severed, how can someone even know they’re in pain? (Also, they die immediately.)

          FYI, they were making a joke about complacent, exploitative rich people, e.g. the French Revolution.

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            11 months ago

            They wouldn’t know it if you did damage to the body after that time. They absolutely would know that the severed end of the spinal cord that remained connected to the brainwas sending very loud pain signals for the brief time they remained conscious.

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        11 months ago

        Front accounts of when the guillotine was used often and publicly, there was seemingly voluntary movement for up to two minutes. Imagine the hell that is searing pain from nerves cut and exposed to air while you black out screaming silent and breathless.

        Dropping a 2 ton weight made of tungsten onto someone’s head is about as instant and painless as possible. We can kill better, we have had the technology.

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          Dropping a 2 ton weight made of tungsten onto someone’s head is about as instant and painless as possible. We can kill better, we have had the technology.

          Are we talking about the mashinator?

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      11 months ago

      Is it fair to argue that this is being done by the government, not the Americans themselves?

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        11 months ago

        Not really, in the States it still happens in, it is very much supported by the “people”.