• TheLepidopterists [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            10 months ago

            I actually only know these bands at all from torrenting a huge file of twee/indie pop stuff on a whim when I was like 19 and I listened very unevenly to it. I know the phrase throw Aggi off the bridge but only from a Tullycraft song that referenced it, don’t think I’ve ever even listened to Black Tambourine.

            I don’t even know what made me do this, I think maybe I watched But I’m a Cheerleader and really liked the Go Sailor songs?

            • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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              10 months ago

              Sean from Tullycraft along with his wife Liz have a wonderful indie pop radio show on Friday nights called Pop Songs your new boyfriend’s too stupid to know about on Space 101FM out of Seattle. They upload the shows online if you want to jump back in to the current indie pop landscape. It’s how I discovered Me Rex among others.

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        10 months ago

        No vibes are “objectively the worst” because everything that flows from a human mind without reproducing reactionary thought is enough. Putting arbitrary limitations on the art one has to produce, or trying to coerce other’s art into these little corners of what is “cool” or “not cringe”, is the root cause of the more “intellectual” forms of cringe culture and the numerous sacrifical trash of the week rage bait right wing youtuber content mills.

        People on the internet in general need to learn that, while it’s perfectly fine to dislike something, not vibe with it, whatever, that that doesn’t make it “bad” and even if saying it’s “bad” isn’t meant in any sort of “objective” way, it still reproduces and reinforces a culture of self-policed expression, of masking.

        Lots of critiques people make on the internet of things other than music still work because it always consists of something other than just “it’s bad”. It’s always, “oh, this reproduces this ideology I don’t like”, or “oh, it doesn’t make sense because of this plot hole”. But because any sort of similar trait in music can be equally desirable for another person as it is repugnant for the one pointing it out, you can’t really do this with music, unless you’re critiquing lyrics or a music video specifically.

        I don’t see any room for calling music (or it’s titles) good or bad beyond mean-spirited bullying, which yes, can be good, if it’s reactionary music. Punk isn’t, well, most of the time.

        The fact of the matter is that this is just objectively wrong, and plenty of people like “whimsical” things, and plenty of people DESPISE “whimsical” things, and plenty of people just don’t care, and that’s going to be a thing with any vibe or aesthetic until the sun boils over.