Itâs not necessarily being âscared and intimidatedâ.
Weâre just conditioned that when someone at the top of their field talks about their hobbies / interests / skills outside that field, itâs very often a very shallow level of skill. Why? Because being at the top of your field in almost anything takes a lot of focus. You donât really have time to develop other skills / hobbies.
There are countless examples. Actors or athletes who release music albums that are just awful. Celebrities who write really amateurish novels which would sink into obscurity if they didnât have a famous personâs name attached.
Making the problem worse, often the entourage of those rich and famous people is filled with sycophants who heap praise on the celebs. That leads them to believe that they really are good at their hobbies.
Then thereâs the fact that the world is so hungry for celebrity gossip and special interest stories that âjournalistsâ often get a tiny nugget of information and use it for the basis of an entire article. So, if a celebrity mumbles something about liking their backyard barbecue, it will spawn countless articles about how that celeb is an expert at the art of BBQ, they might release their own branded BBQ sauce, their skills were endorsed by some celebrity chef, etc.
So, given all that, itâs perfectly reasonable to be skeptical when you hear something like âThis [insert celebrity type here] can [insert hobby here] like an expert!â
This is a complete strawman, and pretty much completely wrong. If you look at the heroes of the IT community, Linus Torvalds, Steve Wozniak, Gabe Newell, or the lesser known Terry A. Davis. These are not conventionally attractive people living a glamourous lifestyle.
This does not mean this post is not sexist, but the strawman of âif this was a male they would idolise himâ is just complete horseshit, and in no way better than assuming a âpretty little womanâ couldnât do programming.
Youâre moving the goal posts. I said if this was a hot dude the comments wouldnât be nearly as hostile. Both of us know this, but youâre busy insisting these incels are only making these comments because the media or some bullshit. You know theyâre doing it because theyâre jealous and youâre no better for trying to justify their bullshit.
No. I made a pretty clear statement that if this was a hot dude, the commenters wouldnât be as hostile. Thatâs setting the goal posts. Saying I said theyâd be praising the man is moving them.
Itâs not necessarily being âscared and intimidatedâ.
Weâre just conditioned that when someone at the top of their field talks about their hobbies / interests / skills outside that field, itâs very often a very shallow level of skill. Why? Because being at the top of your field in almost anything takes a lot of focus. You donât really have time to develop other skills / hobbies.
There are countless examples. Actors or athletes who release music albums that are just awful. Celebrities who write really amateurish novels which would sink into obscurity if they didnât have a famous personâs name attached.
Making the problem worse, often the entourage of those rich and famous people is filled with sycophants who heap praise on the celebs. That leads them to believe that they really are good at their hobbies.
Then thereâs the fact that the world is so hungry for celebrity gossip and special interest stories that âjournalistsâ often get a tiny nugget of information and use it for the basis of an entire article. So, if a celebrity mumbles something about liking their backyard barbecue, it will spawn countless articles about how that celeb is an expert at the art of BBQ, they might release their own branded BBQ sauce, their skills were endorsed by some celebrity chef, etc.
So, given all that, itâs perfectly reasonable to be skeptical when you hear something like âThis [insert celebrity type here] can [insert hobby here] like an expert!â
You know damn good and well that if this was a hot dude that could do these things, the comments towards them wouldnât be nearly as hostile.
This is a complete strawman, and pretty much completely wrong. If you look at the heroes of the IT community, Linus Torvalds, Steve Wozniak, Gabe Newell, or the lesser known Terry A. Davis. These are not conventionally attractive people living a glamourous lifestyle.
This does not mean this post is not sexist, but the strawman of âif this was a male they would idolise himâ is just complete horseshit, and in no way better than assuming a âpretty little womanâ couldnât do programming.
Youâre moving the goal posts. I said if this was a hot dude the comments wouldnât be nearly as hostile. Both of us know this, but youâre busy insisting these incels are only making these comments because the media or some bullshit. You know theyâre doing it because theyâre jealous and youâre no better for trying to justify their bullshit.
But didnât you move the goal posts first?
No. I made a pretty clear statement that if this was a hot dude, the commenters wouldnât be as hostile. Thatâs setting the goal posts. Saying I said theyâd be praising the man is moving them.
And you made that statement on a post that was about a different statement.
âThis [insert celebrity type here] can [insert hobby here] like an expert!â
The original post doesnât say âlike an expertâ, but you continued to create a strawman argument focused mostly on this aspect.