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    I feel arch users would be far more popular if this were true.

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    Honestly, yes. Whenever my PC goes to sleep, my SSD stops working. I have to unplug it and plug it back in to make it work again.

    Journalctl suggests the SATA port doesn’t support suspend signals. I suspect my mobo (ASUS TUF Gaming B550M-Plus) doesn’t fully support sleep on Linux. Though I’ve yet to test if it’s also an issue on Windows.

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      Have the wifi version of that mobo. No issues with suspend with either ubuntu or Pop-OS. Using an nvme as primary.

      Might honestly be arch.

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      I’ve just given up on all sleep/hibernate stuff on Linux and pretend it doesn’t exist and we never invented that and just fully shut down like it’s 1995. Half the time it does work, it comes back in a half-ass zombie state anyway with shit broken left and right, needing a full reboot.

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        Sleep isn’t even that useful these days anyways. If you have your OS installed on an SSD or an M.2, you’ll start up in about 10 - 15 seconds from fully powered off anyways.

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          I used to agree with you, then I had to run to a meeting with a non closed laptop. Since my hinge was weak I was holding it like an open book, as to keep it open without closing anything important by touching the screen. The whole office stared at me like I am an alien.

          (I know you can change the behavior, but back then I had it on default, which would hibernate on lid closure and never wake up, so I just made a habbit of shutting it down before closing the lid)

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            If the computer stays on for the whole work day already, why should it go to sleep for the two minutes you’re carrying it somewhere? Just disable sleep on closing the lid.

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              Yeah let me jump in time to tell my younger self to do that before said event. /s

              Obviously I changed it afterwards. But before it was simply a non issue.

              And just to clarify it again, even though I said it above already: by default on my OS/DE back then, it would hibernate on lid closure and all work in progress would be lost.

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          it’s nice if you have a bunch of automatically starting programs, though i imagine hibernation is pretty similar in that regard.

          I suppose NVME ssds might be more up to that task? I’ve been running a sata ssd on my machine since installing arch on it lol.

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        I don’t even shut my computer down anymore. Just lock it and let the monitors go to sleep. Reboot as necessary for updates. Been doing this since like 2004 without any issues. Currently on Linux Mint.

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        Did you use the Mrchromebox.tech “hack “ to use an alt OS on it? My Chromebook has become my daily driver now. Though I fuckers it up constantly.

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      I just did this yesterday! I’ve worked with Linux/Unix for a long time, but I’ve never had a Linux machine at home. We had an ancient cheap chromebook and I turned it into a functional Linux laptop! I used GalliumOS though, which isn’t being actively developed any longer, so I might have to change setups eventually.

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        I really think chromebooks have a decent future in the linux community. Especially with them being cheap. I use mabox linux, its a manjaro +openbox distro with tons of customization options. Its way way cool. If you are more into debian you should check out bunson labs !

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          In didn’t plan to distro hop on the chrome book, but having something actively maintained that’s a nice’d up Debian would be sweet.

          What have you done to me?!?!?

          Are these distros good at supporting various old chrome book hardware? Hell maybe even something like Mint would work, but I should probably stick with the lightweight ones.

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            Mabox has an option at setup for Chromebook keyboards but i find binding from a regular keyboard less of a pain. My one real issue was the sound card, but SOF ( sound open firmware) fixed it immediately.

            Mint is basically perfect, i just wish their xfce edition was based on Debian And not ubuntu. Mint + debian = the tops. Another one to consider is Sparky Linux. I heard good stuff about it.

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              Thanks again!

              The chrome book is in a state where I can boot from the USB drive and try out whatever I want, so I’m going to take a look!

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    I think an arch user would know to wear the antistatic band on the wrist that’s grounded… but maybe that’s just me. /pretentious_sniff

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      Would they? Arch users strike me as coming in two flavors.

      1. Competent users who have a significant amount of IT knowledge, that happen to enjoy an incredibly lightweight Linux distro which is fully configurable. This group is akin to a racecar driver with a project car in their garage.

      2. Random people who lack basic knowledge but drink whatever Kool aid they’re given, and just happened to fall into a FOSS community where that Kool aid was Linux. They install Arch because someone said it’s the best, and their ability to do so gives them an air of superiority and the belief that they’re competent like group 1. This group is more like a teenager with a KIA, who believes their glued-on hood scoop gives them more horsepower.

      Due to social media the second group far outpaces the first. So I’d wager most of them don’t even know what the acronym ESD stands for, let alone how grounding works in basic electrical theory.

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        So I’d wager most of them don’t even know what the acronym ESD stands for, let alone how grounding works in basic electrical theory.

        Grounding moves the magic smoke from one component to another, preferably, to one you don’t own.

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        you forgot about the part of the arch community where we forcibly require arch users to manually install arch linux. You don’t just wake up and accidentally install arch linux manually, you have to know what you’re doing, even if being a bumbling idiot during the process, you’re still doing it the hard way.

        Jokes aside, arch by nature is more tempting to “real linux users” the average “i use linux kid” is going to use kali or something.

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          I didn’t say group 2 did it accidentally, I said they pretend that the specific skillset required to install Arch via terminal somehow means they’re certified professional IT.

          All you know is how to use a CLI specifically with Linux syntax, that’s a good start but it’s somewhat like pretending you’re a mechanic because you know how to change a tire.

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            i meant accidentally as hyperbole. The point being if you managed to install arch manually that you had some level of knowledge. Or at least gained it through the experience.

            I’d say it’s more like pretending you’re a mechanic while having a fairly comprehensive understanding of how cars work. The difference here is the environment, and the experience. You aren’t gonna become an IT professional unless you’ve had years in the industry or “certification” anyway. But you can certainly roll your own maintenance if you tried.

            That is also downplaying a manual install of arch quite a bit, but that’s beyond the point.

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          There was a day, when I woke up and accidentily installed Gentoo. It is so sticky, still running on my PCs since more than 15 years.

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      Trust me, there is no need for that nowadays, most components have serious anti-static protection in them.

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          Yeah, do agree. Grounding your wrists has been pretty much obsolte for the past 20 years or so. In the 80’s, 90’s, yeah, it was preferable that you’re grounded.

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      I just quickly touch the earth pin in the nearest outlet. I don’t think it does anything, but it can’t hurt either.

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        Just touch the PSU. It’s grounded and then you are as well then Touch it regularly and static never builds up.

        I live in a super dry place with static sparking on the sheets when I move, so these are actual words of wisdom.

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    You know, I’m kinda surprised there isn’t a Maid IT service out there somewhere. You’re telling me I can fix computers all day AND dress in a maid outfit? sign me up!

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    I laughed about the meme.

    But It’s the opposite of my experience tbh. I had way more trouble before I finally switched to arch.

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      Give NixOS a try. Imagine never even having the risk of a broken system ever again. Never getting stuck in the TTY because some update bricked to your shit. It’s a nice life on Nix.

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        Idk, I like NixOS but it’s not problem-free and the worst part about it is that for some problems you won’t have much luck finding help in many places and on top of that the documentation isn’t the greatest. That said I have found less very serious issues, but also because I haven’t messed with it as much as Arch.

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        I don’t like the nix package manager it updates too slowly, and though a config file for everything is a neat idea, i found that it was kind of clunky for use on a desktop, so i’m back on void (which tbf has way less packages than arch or nix but xbps has everything i personally need)

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        Are you willing to take a list of my requirements and giving me a functional set of nix / homemanager / flake files that fullfill those requirements? (It’s a long and very particular list) I’ll even pay you 150$ if you can manage to fulfill 100% of the must haves and over 80% of the want haves.

        Because last time I tried it took over a week, was buggy (thus compromising about a quarter of the must have requirements) and provided no visible benefit over my current archlinux with a set of custom packages for dotfiles, config backups and bootable btrfs snapshots from my personal experience.

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    I noticed they completely removed the power supply. I wonder if that’s them being overprotective or undercautious?

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    This is obviously false. The hardware Is fine, I fucked up the config.

    I unironically do have a bootstick at hand for this case though.