are we seriously calling “pointing out that the argument being made has been changed in a rhetorical sleight of hand because the original argument is completely wrong” nitpicky and toxic now? come on. this is a piss take and bordering on “let’s look the other way when someone is making a false argument that aligns with what i want to be true”.
I feel like you should take a step back and take a look at your posts lately. You’ve been super combative, looking for points to cling to and attack people on. It literally looks like every angry redditor. It’s a terrible look for the admin of an instance whose slogan is ‘bee nice’.
While you may not agree with the tone that Alyaza used in their reply, their response is logically and factually correct and I think it’s natural for someone to be upset about someone who’s being deceitful with their point (whether it’s done consciously or not). Furthermore, jumping into a conversation someone else is having online to call one side pedantic or toxic isn’t exactly treating them with good grace or being nice. If you wanted to diffuse, you could have asked questions or treated their response as charitably as possible before jumping to conclusions about intent.
Being nice and being civil are two different things and we do not strive to be perfectly civil around here. After all, weaponizing civility is often used by the intolerant to try and tone police others. While tolerance/intolerance isn’t at play here, the same mechanisms of speech are, and its fair to attribute charitability and faith based on the conversation as it unfolds. If someone is deceitful in their response, someone responding to that bad faith with less respect is to be expected.
i guess this is a bit opaque but: pretty much any (formal or informal) mod action or guidance that isn’t completely self-evident (i.e. spam removal, approving users, pinning threads) has been seen by at least two or three other mods, usually more depending on who’s around. that includes this informal correction from me upthread. the site-wide mod team is aware of what i said because we have a chat for vibe checking stuff like this–and straightforwardly, if they disagreed with how i responded or the substance of what i said, then the posts would not still be up because i’d delete or amend them.
are we seriously calling “pointing out that the argument being made has been changed in a rhetorical sleight of hand because the original argument is completely wrong” nitpicky and toxic now? come on. this is a piss take and bordering on “let’s look the other way when someone is making a false argument that aligns with what i want to be true”.
I feel like you should take a step back and take a look at your posts lately. You’ve been super combative, looking for points to cling to and attack people on. It literally looks like every angry redditor. It’s a terrible look for the admin of an instance whose slogan is ‘bee nice’.
While you may not agree with the tone that Alyaza used in their reply, their response is logically and factually correct and I think it’s natural for someone to be upset about someone who’s being deceitful with their point (whether it’s done consciously or not). Furthermore, jumping into a conversation someone else is having online to call one side pedantic or toxic isn’t exactly treating them with good grace or being nice. If you wanted to diffuse, you could have asked questions or treated their response as charitably as possible before jumping to conclusions about intent.
Being nice and being civil are two different things and we do not strive to be perfectly civil around here. After all, weaponizing civility is often used by the intolerant to try and tone police others. While tolerance/intolerance isn’t at play here, the same mechanisms of speech are, and its fair to attribute charitability and faith based on the conversation as it unfolds. If someone is deceitful in their response, someone responding to that bad faith with less respect is to be expected.
i guess this is a bit opaque but: pretty much any (formal or informal) mod action or guidance that isn’t completely self-evident (i.e. spam removal, approving users, pinning threads) has been seen by at least two or three other mods, usually more depending on who’s around. that includes this informal correction from me upthread. the site-wide mod team is aware of what i said because we have a chat for vibe checking stuff like this–and straightforwardly, if they disagreed with how i responded or the substance of what i said, then the posts would not still be up because i’d delete or amend them.
Alright. There’s no need to get into this here. This has nothing to do with the post anymore