“Big Clearance! 12 in place of 1!”

“Grande offerta! 12 per 1!”

ENFB cyclists’ union, Woerden, 1993; poster by Theo van den Boogaard

@fuck_cars

  • library_napper@monyet.cc
    113·
    11 months ago

    Pretty gross rack design tho. Should just be a bunch of pipes bent into a large U-shape cemented into the ground on both ends.

    You’re supposed to lock the rear wheel with a u-bolt, not the front wheel.

    Also not all bikes are shaped the same, and once you put a weeks worth of groceries on them that front wheel is popping out of that shitty slot and you’re crushing the guy next to you

    • Hagdos@lemmy.world
      24·
      11 months ago

      This is a very common Dutch design for bike racks. You use the vertical bar to chain your frame to.

      If your groceries are popping your front wheel up, you have a very awkward setup. I’ve only had that happen with very large/weird loads. Normal groceries should be over your rear axle, not behind it.

      Not all bikes are the same, but over here 90% of bikes are city bikes, and this rack accommodates that.

      • Raz@lemm.ee
        3·
        11 months ago

        Couldn’t agree more. Imagine telling the Dutch how to do bikes as a non-Dutch. :p

      • library_napper@monyet.cc
        12·
        11 months ago

        Use a chain? Thats either less secure or bigger & heavier than a u-bolt. Just look at the bar, its not going to work for the rear wheel.

        The rack I describe is cheaper (less metal), more secure, and accommodates 100% of bikes. I know many Dutch-made cargo bikes won’t even work with the design shown.

      • Inktvip@lemm.ee
        111·
        11 months ago

        Practically all bikes in the Netherlands still look like that today. They’re a tool to get you from A to B and this design has proven very reliable for that.

        U-locks for bikes are a rarity as well. Basically all bikes have a lock built-in, that you optionally pair with a chain if you park it somewhere deemed unsafe.

      • wieson@lemmy.world
        62·
        11 months ago

        How “does it not look right” if it’s literally reality. I could take a foto of such a rack today in my area. They exist, they work. I don’t see the problem.

          • wieson@lemmy.world
            51·
            11 months ago

            pretty gross rack design

            You’re absolutely right

            It’s a normal rack, I disagree with the grossness.

            They didn’t […] tell him “hey that doesn’t look right, please draw again”

            But it does look right.

              • deur@feddit.nl
                42·
                11 months ago

                I wont use all caps but they are indeed all over the netherlands. This discussion is hella lacking context. Yes those racks are very common and normal, and no amount of what you think changes that. This is a dutch ad which is based on what NL actually looks like.

                Acting like the 80s were a new time for bikes… by then the netherlands was not occupied and the dutch were indeed allowed to own bikes again :)

                  • kattenluik@feddit.nl
                    43·
                    11 months ago

                    We’ve all read your comments, even the deleted one and we’re saying you’re just wrong and your comment was at least partially about this.

                    Nothing in this comment is useful, you’re now just throwing jabs at people for no reason and you have thrown away all your credibility along with it.

                    Deleted comment:

                    You’re absolutely right, but this ad looks like it’s maybe late 80s, probably early 90s, so give them a little bit of slack. They were just figuring out what really good bike racks need to look like.

                    Also, bikes at that time were a lot more basic and cheaper, there’s not much need to be overly cautious about them.

                    Edit: Also also, the guy who drew this was kind of a big guy in his day, so they either got him for free or paid him way too less, either way they didn’t have the means to tell him „hey that doesn’t look right good, draw it again, please?“…

    • lad@programming.dev
      2·
      11 months ago

      You’re supposed to lock the rear wheel with a u-bolt, not the front wheel.

      This must vary a lot, but that’s how you keep only a wheel where I’m from. I even saw those wheels locked to railings here and there in Berlin

      • library_napper@monyet.cc
        31·
        11 months ago

        I’m not sure if you’re agreeing with me, but the whole reason to lock the rear wheel (as opposed to the front wheel) is specifically to avoid this problem. By locking through the rear wheel inside the rear triangle of the frame, you lock up both the wheel and the frame at once.

        This is why bike racks designed to lock the front wheel are stupid.

        • lad@programming.dev
          2·
          11 months ago

          I was arguing, but now that you explained it I understand that you were right all along

          Edit: but the comment is still valid with regard to front wheel locking

    • AeonFelis@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      11 months ago

      How would locking the rear wheel work for that yellow bike with the tow cart? If bicycles are to replace cars for grocery runs, I imagine such tow carts would be a must for many people.

      • library_napper@monyet.cc
        11·
        11 months ago

        It would work great. You’d lock the rear wheel to the bike rack with a ubolt, and that would lock both the frame of the bike and the rear wheel in one go. To lock the front wheel and the trailer, use a cable and loop it around and pass it through the same ubolt.

        My point is that the bike racks that are just one large U shape are far more versatile. They work for road bikes. They work for short folder bikes. They work for huge cargo bikes. They work for the bike with they yellow trailer.