Other right-wing accounts variously reacted by describing the move as Orwellian, lamenting the death of free speech and even contemplating leaving Canada for good.

Oh no. Not that. Please no.

<Tee hee!>

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    8 months ago

    Cool, let’s stay on topic.

    This case is about defamation and was investigated and put to trial on the existing tools.

    A big story was written about it, and I believe it was to garner support for privacy-invading new laws.

    Clearly the laws weren’t needed to prosecute this case, so why are they needed then?

    So, I have 3 questions for you.

    Why will they need new laws to prosecute similar cases when this case didn’t require it?

    Why was this case written into a big news story when defamation cases halted every day?

    Why does privacy matter at all?

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        8 months ago

        “A group of experts” is not “why” What problem does the bill solve?

        Defamation cases “happen” everyday, what makes this one special? (Autocorrect strikes again)

        This doesn’t answer why privacy matters, why have any privacy at all? What value does it bring to a society?

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            Yes, “won’t someone PLEASE think of the children” a joke so old the Simpsons did it in the 90’s. What protections does this offer? HOW does this protect the children?

            Maybe, hard to say and definitely a little “tin foil hat” But…. Ehhhh…

            Ahhh, the meat of it. Yes they listened to experts. Yes they revised the law from these experts. No, the law is still bad. Warrantless wiretapping is always bad. Who watches the watchers? Who reigns in police powers? Governments around the world have been doing things in bad faith since the beginning of time. Bringing in “experts” might just be “someone else that agrees” it’s a meaningless appeal to an unknown authority.

            It still doesn’t answer if, and why you personally believe privacy matters. I mean you could keep many more kids safe with less privacy, where’s the line? Is there a line? Should we withdraw ALL privacy to protect the most children possible?

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                8 months ago

                But WHAT is that balance?

                Can police just listen in to your calls at all times?

                Can they search you just because you look suspicious?

                Can they read your mail?

                What is the balance between “police can do this” and “police need oversight “?

                The balance is fine, but what does that balance look like?

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                    8 months ago

                    Okay but the new law allows police to search your online messages and accounts without warrants. Warrants are intended to BE that balance.

                    And I have little faith that the law will be struck down if it “goes too far”

                    If we look to the south and their “patriot act” you’ll find that it went WAY too far and the abuses were RAMPANT. Yet to this day, it’s still around.