Every time someone brings up a controller vs mouse and keyboard, most of if not all comments will push towards the OP to “switch to mouse and keyboard” because “it’s better!”

In my eyes, the person is already accustomed to controller, they’re used to the sensitivity, and if not it’s a quick change.

If they’re going to get used to mouse and keyboard they need to:

  • find a reasonable mouse

  • find a reasonable mousepad for their situation

  • find out if they’re a wrist aimer or an arm aimer

  • make sure their windows mouse sensitivity is set to 6/11 for some reason otherwise everything else will be messed up

  • find their “optimal sensitivity” many of which tutorials are (subjectively) hard to find (the good ones)

I’m both a controller and mouse and keyboard user but I find it easier to aim with a controller. It feels natural.

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      There sometimes is a gyroscope aim that allows for better precision without the assist. Still aiming with a gamepad is pain, just a bit less if everything is set up perfectly (which is rarely the case)

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      Or even better, any cheat mod. Mods are cool if they add to gameplay. But a real player doesn’t need any mods like aim assist, see through walls etc.

      If you can’t play without a cheat mod, then you aren’t playing, you’re just being a dick.

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        Sorry I’m not sure I follow you here. Why are you talking about cheats?

        Is this about “PC gamers” using cheat tools in online games? Because there will always be cheaters and the platform/controllers used have nothing to do with it. If people on consoles could use cheat tools, there would be some that do.

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          They seemed to think that aim assist is a cheat (like it is in some games). Igorant to the fact that it’s built-in where controller is supposed to be used

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        Based on OPs post, I think it’s fair to assume that they aren’t even aware that console games bake-in auto aim. Most console players in general are unaware of that fact.

        Nobody is saying don’t have fun, or don’t do what you want. But a lot of times unpopular opinions are unpopular because they’re built on a poor grasp of the topic matter.

        In the same way I’ll educate someone on how tax brackets work when they say “my boss told me I’m better off not getting a raise because it’ll bump me into the next tax bracket”, I wouldn’t expect people to just nod and smile when they demonstrate a similarly poor grasp of game input devices.

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          They don’t care that there is auto aim, their goal is to have fun, not be the best there ever was without crutches. This is why it’s so hard to talk online about anything to do with video games, the nerds make it insufferable. Op can’t talk about this obviously

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        The point is that the only reason a controller can be better is because they get aim assist. Without it they’re worse in every way, and there are a lot of games that let you use aim assist with a mouse.

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        Having fun IS the goal, but the discussion here is about controller vs KB/M for FPS games. Yes of course you can have fun with both, but let’s not pretend that controllers are as good as KB/M in shooter games because it’s just not true. They are slower, not as precise and require aiming assistance in order to compete with KB/M in multiplayer games.

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            An ops free to use whichever they like. No judgment. But in the multiplayer cross-play setting, without aim assist they’re going to be at a disadvantage. That’s all