Breaking news: in one of the most productive countries / economies in the entire history of humanity, the majority of people creating that productivity do not get to enjoy the rewards of that productivity.

same as it ever was.

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    Lol some clown is removing my comments as “uncivil” in posts

    Violence is the only way that rights and freedoms have ever been secured. It has NEVER happened by voting

    Can’t disagree with this more.

    Advocating for violence is wrong, and that’s probably why you keep getting your comments removed.

    In fact I’ll go so far as to say that if we rely on violence every time to resolve issues then there’ll be nothing left but cockroaches and dolphins looking around wondering “What the fuck happened here?!”

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      Well to be fair, he didn’t say which side would be committing the violence. One analysis of the civil rights movement is that is was successful because it provoked violence by the oppressors while cameras were present.

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        Well to be fair, he didn’t say which side would be committing the violence.

        I speak towards violence of any kind, from either side. Self-defense notwithstanding.

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      You can “disagree” all you want but history isnt going to change to fit your rosy-glassed worldview. Everything good you have-especially as a US citizen- is the result of violence and nothing else. As long as you lay down and think you can get power to give into you because you begged harder, nothing at all will ever change.

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        Everything good you have-especially as a US citizen- is the result of violence and nothing else.

        If you’re talking about overthrowing tyrants to become a free nation, then yeah /agree violence is most likely needed.

        But the whole point of America and its political system is to resolve conflict in non-violet ways, so definately think your’e wrong there. Violence begets violence and destroys your land/homes.

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          How did women get voting rights? How did blacks get civil rights? How did workers get Union rights? How did gays get human rights?

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            How does any vote get passed in Congress today? Congress has votes and passes laws all the time without violence.

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              Bribery and extortion. No vote is made on a bill’s own merits. It’s “I will continue to defend the orphan crushing machine against your shenanigans unless you give me 30 Million of your state’s dollars to build a bridge to move the ophan crusher to my district!”

              Seriously, how can you possibly live through the last couple of years of Roe and associated laws and decide there is no violence??!

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                Seriously, how can you possibly live through the last couple of years of Roe and associated laws and decide there is no violence??!

                Our definition of ‘violence’ differs.

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          Also, for the record, our system is absolutely not set up to resolve conflicts in nonviolent ways. The system itself is violent, and it uses many forms of violence to perpetuate itself from physical to economic to social oppression. The only thing it knows is violets, and the only thing that it has ever responded to is violence. You may hate it or ignore it, but that is just the facts

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            Also, for the record, our system is absolutely not set up to resolve conflicts in nonviolent ways.

            You need to justify that statement with real-country examples, because unless your definition of “violence” is different than it is for the rest of us, your comment is easily proven false.

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              Violence is that act of being violated; it is not necessarily “Mean Person Hit Me!”. Our homelessness and housing problems are all due to acts of economic violence. The courts’ actions against women seeking abortion is absolutely violence. And blacks and Hisapanics can tell you about police violence.

              All of America is violence.