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PARIS: Urbanites seeking peace and quiet in the bucolic French countryside will have more difficulty in taking farmers to court over crowing roosters, mooing cows and stinking pigs in the future after parliament passed a new law, reported German news agency (dpa).
This is a legitimate problem in rural areas. People will move in next to a pig farm and then complain about the smell. Glad to hear the French farmers got a win.
A similar problem happens in cities. People move to cities not expecting all the road noise and people noise and complain about it. My buddy owns a rental and tells me about the complaints some people have and it always gets a laugh out of me.
A few years ago a concert venue was forced to shut down because the land next to it turned into a residential area and they all started complaining about the noise whenever there was a concert.
Imagine moving in next to a place that’s sole purpose for existing is loud music and then complaining about the loud music.
Humans are fuckin dumb and I can’t wait till we’re gone
Same thing happens with fire houses. People movie into a home directly next to or across from a fire house that has stood for over a hundred years and then complain about the siren.
Got a link? Sounds interesting
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germain_Amphitheater
Though reading through it the noise complaints were only a part of the issues that caused them to close
Yeah, looks like a pretty minor factor.
There are 2 Navy helicopter training bases here. This is not a new thing.
And people here as still upset, whine and sue the Navy.
They’re very polite BTW. The choppers almost always get to significant altitude before moving around.
It’s happening around the Denver airport (again… happened at the old Stapleton airport too). You stupid idiots bought the house knowing it’s next to a giant ass international airport! That’s why it was so cheap!
It goes both ways. I remember when I was a kid and visited my family outside the city… Couldn’t sleep, it was eerily quiet.
You should sue the countruside for being too quiet.
I’m an adult now, I solve problems in the adult way. I just leave the car running overnight and shut the family cat in there, it always bumps into the horn rummaging around in there. Cars and horns. Just like home in the big city.
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It’s something that was happening at least 20 years ago as well. Though specifically for pig farms’ smell: regulations of how to deal with the smell has long existed and quite often if there’s complaints they’re not using the filtration system because it’s expensive to maintain.
I live within 200m of a pig farm and I’ve never smelled it itself.
No, it existed long before covid. There is towns which made a contract for people moving there, which deny them the right to file against the church’s bells noises or cow’s moo by example.
In the article, which was a daunting 200 words, it talks about cases from 2016 and 2019.
Its been happening for a very long time. Usually its farms, but it applies to anything loud and/or smelly. Racetracks and gun ranges are good examples.
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But what do you do if a pig farm moves next to you?
Animal agriculture can be a detriment for other farmers through soil and air pollution, and smell can be a good indication.
The pronunciation is meuuuuh.
Not sure about you folks, but I get my meat the way our good lord intended: naturally grown in a lab.
If we weren’t meant to solve modern problems with modern solutions, we wouldn’t have been given brains to do it.
Where do the city dwellers think their organic food comes from?
The store
NIMBY!!! /s
Ya gotta feel bad for them.
I grew up in a rural area around farms. Knew farmers. I never thought about where food came from…it was kind of obvious.
Now I never had to kill my own chicken or anything, but poor city dwellers are so isolated they have no chance to understand.
They’re like the people in Brave New World, taught that everything “out there” is bad, dangerous, deadly.
(On that note, Chicago, NY, Philly, Baltimore, LA, Portland, etc, would like a word).
… flip the script dude… sounds like you’re afraid of city people
They’re like the people in Brave New World, taught that everything “out there” is bad, dangerous, deadly.
Yeah not in my experience. Who told you that?
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People are bad at statistics. Murder numbers might be high in some places that the original comment named but 1. The populations are larger and 2. Violent crime is a minority of overall crime. Murder is a tiny fraction of violent crime
City people….isolated? That’s an interesting take lmao.
But only when they moo in the proper french dialect.
Moue
(I tried “meaux” but that’s just mo.)
French here
It’s “Meuuh”. Pronounced “m-uh”
Close enough, Meaux is a city famous for its Brie cheese.
Hon Hon hon may I get ur milk hon hon hon
the cows mooed, the pigs oinked, the roosters crowed and the French Parliament has heard their voices
Do you moo, sir?
I do moo.
But do you moo at ME, sir?!
Do you bite your thumb at me, sir?
I do bite your thumb.
I was just trying to feed you some hay!
That law is old news, it passed few years ago.
Could you share an older French source?
There is an already existing law that is: https://www.vie-publique.fr/loi/278224-loi-29-janvier-2021-protection-patrimoine-sensoriel-campagnes-francaises But here we’re talking about another one to better protect farmers : https://www.francetvinfo.fr/economie/emploi/metiers/agriculture/conflits-a-la-campagne-bientot-une-loi-pour-proteger-les-agriculteurs_6213924.html#xtor=CS2-765-[autres]-
Thanks! Makes sense why there’s suddenly news about it
Ty Mr fly!
The law project started in late 2019 and was adopted on January 2021.
Apparently they introduced something this week but I really didn’t understand what is.
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The French law, in its majesty, permits cows and people alike to moo in the countryside.
Meeuh
Meux 🥐
And the award for the most endearing headline ever written goes to…
Moooonsiours, Madamooooselles of the court, I moooove you to ignore these awful udderances and meat the cattle half & half way. The other side is milking this offal.
But only when they moo in the proper french dialect.
But only when they moo in the proper french dialect.
But only when they moo in the proper french dialect, you say?