https://raddle.me/wiki/leftunity

Some choice quotes straight from the US state department

The USSR alone was responsible for the de-Tatarization of Crimea, the genocide of the Ingrian Finns, the ethnic cleansing of Poles, the mass gulaging and pogroms of Greeks, the deportation of the Karachays, the deportation of the Kalmyks, the deportation of the Chechens and Ingush (Aardakh), the deportation of the Balkars, the deportation of Azerbaijanis from Armenia, the deportation of the Meskhetian Turks, the deportations of the Chinese and Koreans, the execution and deportation of Latvians, the expulsion of Germans from Eastern Europe and the Holodomor famine that largely happened due to the USSR’s confiscation and export of all the grain stores in central and eastern Ukraine, and preventing people from acquiring more food by banning free movement. Then there’s communist Czechoslovakia’s Romani sterilizations, the Cambodian genocide, Bulgaria’s “revival process”, Vietnam’s Montagnard persecution, the Isaaq genocide in Somalia, the Hmong genocide in Laos, the Gukurahundi massacres in Zimbabwe and the mass starvation of anywhere between 15 and 55 million people that happened in China during Mao’s “Great Leap Forward”.

LMAO

Marx really made his career shamelessly ripping off Proudhon’s earlier work point by point, but piling on a thick authority sludge before serving it up to the world as if he were presenting something new and not just an authoritarian perversion of Proudhon’s ideas. Once Marx found fame with his plagiarism, he then decried Proudhon as being detestable; a bad economist, a bad philosopher, whose critiques were worthless and unevolved.

MARX STOLE COMMUNISM FROM ANARCHISTS!!! LOL

identifying as a leftist is a statement to the world that you support nationalism, states, borders, a monopoly on violence, being ruled by kings or presidents or central committees. Anarchists aren’t left or right wing, we’re anarchists. We reject the power machinations of both wings of government. We reject all authority.

LITERALLY A LIBERTARIAN

If the concept of community is authority-based e.g. steeped in majoritarianism, then what good is it to anarchists? Since at least 99.9% of all existing self-identifying communities and even theoretical proposals for communities are beholden to states, councils, committees, voter bodies and other forms of rulership, it’s safe to say the community ideal in itself is just another vessel of authority. If all organized communities on the planet can be clearly demonstrated to be authority-based, then it’s a safe bet that the entire concept of community is authority-forming… By simply looking at every example in the world today, you can bet with absolute certainty that any forced grouping of people around the community ideal is going to lead everyone involved through another abusive and torturous adventure in archy.

Anti…COMMUNITY??? Can’t make this shit up omg.

The few remaining free people in the world e.g. the Hadza in east Africa (“Tanzania”) don’t live in anything resembling what we know as a community. They’re nomadic, have no leaders, no gods, no rules, no crops, no property, no marriage, no parents (Hadza children have full autonomy and essentially raise themselves), don’t extract anything from the land other than foraged food and are quick to remove themselves from the presence of anyone who tries to rule them.

PLEASE LET ME GO MONKE, I HATE HUMANS SO MUCH

The original National Bolsheviks in both Russia and Germany had the same idea, believing socialism needed more blatant nationalism and racism than it already had under Lenin and Stalin. In the 1980s, the concept of third positionism was taken up by the far-right, fascist political party National Front in the United Kingdom. Today there has been a resurgence in third positionist fascism under various labels, from modern nazbols to “national anarchism” to neo-Eurasianism to (I argue) Dengism. It’s completely unsurprising that an ideology founded by virulent racist and colonialist paternalists like Marx and Engels would find support with so many racist nationalists.

Fucker is trying to cancel Marx using literal nazi propaganda ROFL

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    7 months ago

    Ziq seems to be confusing a low complexity society, ie one without many fixed or formal social or political roles, with not having any rules or norms.

    It makes me question whether there might be neurodiversity in play here and a problem with recognising or fitting into social rules and norms. I don’t generally like making that assessment but in searching for a “why are they like this?” it’s difficult to completely ignore it. There’s a problem there though because generally speaking small communities cast out members that don’t conform to them more than larger societies where we build protections into law for people that are slightly outside of the norms.

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      7 months ago

      Word. I hate to armchair diagnose, but then you run in to perspectives that are so bizarre there isn’t another lens to really analyze them through. On the other hand, I do often say “being an asshole is not a mental illness”. Idk, I think we’re at a point in culture where there aren’t really good ways to discuss someone who is very strange without at least straying in to mental health language and patholigizitng… pathologizing… shit, umm. straying in to language that accuses them of being sick. It’s less of a problem with someone you have no interest in understanding. You can just say they’re an asshole and move on. But when you’re trying to wrap your head around someone who is very strange “neurodiverse” or “mental illness” is going to pop up as a potential explanation for their beliefs.

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        I don’t think neurodiversity is mental illness is it? It’s one thing to say “this person has x illness” and totally another to wonder whether there is non-debilitating neurodiversity at play. I don’t necessarily think being different in terms of how things are processed should be considered an illness.