• Daft_ish@lemmy.world
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    I think someday we will look back and consider if taking everything digital was ever the right choice. Friend always uses the term, “high tech downgrade.” The more I interact with the internet the more I learn how it pushes the limits of our society in not so great directions.

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      I think the opposite can be said too. t’s pushed society forward in so many great places as well.

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        I’m not saying there should be no internet. I am only saying maybe some restraint would be advantageous for everyone.

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          Everything evolves as a wave of extremes and eventually finds some sort of equilibrium, trying to contain that is a fool’s errand.

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            Or a new normal… paved roads and cars in the US was once pretty extreme, until it became normal. Did you be it’s grownup and tell it to go to bed on time, did you make a futile effort to stunt its growth or did you roll over. Story of the frog in boiling water.

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          Thing is, the Internet at its core is just a vastly interconnected network. That’s it. All the effects of the Internet are direct consequences of that fundamental property, and time.

          The technological architecture that supports the complexity of modern civilization? The direct consequence of interconnectivity × time. QAnon? The direct consequence of interconnectivity × time.

          You can’t restrain the bad without crippling the good.

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            the Internet at its core is just a vastly interconnected network.

            Nothing about what you said invalides my point.

            Not every human transaction has to be made over the internet. Other technology’s are sufficient and do not cripple society.

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              You can’t restrain the bad without crippling the good

              That part. “People should…” is an impotent sentiment. How do you incentivize, or force, a regression to “sufficient” technology? How do you do so without affecting beneficial network technology?

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                By learning from the past. See, in your mind you’ve already established all technological advancement is beneficial.

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                    Is your point limiting technological advancement always results in hindering the opportunity for good?

                    If so, no, I haven’t. Unless you define good as anything that someone could find value in.

                    Maybe what you’re missing is an example.

                    Tim and Susie live right next to each other and have windows facing each other. Tim and Susie are 6. They talk everyday over a tin can and string. Susie had the idea from seeing it in a comic book and Tim went home and made the tin can string telephone. The best part of their day is meeting up at the window and yelling to each other as each talk into a tin can. One day Tim’s absentee father stops by for a visit and sees Tim and Susie preform their ritual. Tim’s dad runs to the store and gets them a pair of walky talkies.

                    “Much better” Tim’s dad exclaims while throwing Tim’s tin cans in the trash. Tim and Susie think the walky talkies are neat and they run around for a day hiding behind bushes and seeing if they can find each other. Without the tin cans though they don’t have a reason to meet at the window everyday so they quickly forget why they ever had the ritual in the first place. Eventually ones batteries dies and it doesn’t even matter because they have long forgot their fun game.

                    Tell me. How did the tin cans cripple the chance for good?

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      I think the problem was that technological advances were faster than social ones. We ended with new ways to control people, and new forms of inequality.

      Many of our problems with technology are rooted in a company abusing from their power. Even the troubled ways we communcate online today are a product of how bigh tech manipulated social networks.

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      The Internet is great. It connects people. I learned so many things even I lived in a small town in a third-world country.

      But ads, scam, and 15-second videos are bad. The current Internet is nasty and not as beautiful as it was.

      Two sides of a coin, I suppose.