• Pxtl@lemmy.caEnglish
      411·
      11 months ago

      Vader has The Force, but Wolverine can recover from whatever injuries he gets. Vader has been removed from battle by serious wounds at least 3 times so far.

        • klemptor@lemmy.ml
          16·
          11 months ago

          Is there a known material* that lightsabers don’t cut? Serious question.

          *Beyond that time Kylo Emo Ren had a hissy and attacked a console, that thing should’ve been way more damaged.

        • Pxtl@lemmy.caEnglish
          15·
          11 months ago

          It’s kind of a moot point anyways? I mean, how good do you think they’re going to be at parrying under this circumstance? They’re both gonna get stabbed in the chest.

          • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
            25·
            11 months ago

            Yeah but that will kill Vader and mildly annoy Wolverine.

            Vader should Force Push him off a walkway with no handrails, it’s his only option.

            I think if he used Force Aneurysm that would probably work temporarily but if lightsabers can’t cut adamantium it’s just delaying the inevitable.

        • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
          6·
          11 months ago

          Nah, in canon, it’s been shown to be resistant to similar types of coherent energy. It might slightly mar the surface because of the heat, but it wouldn’t cut it. And even the heat thing is my giving the light saber properties beyond what’s shown in film and in books.

          • Phlogiston@lemmy.world
            4·
            11 months ago

            It’s always difficult to merge worlds but maybe adamantium is roughly equivalent to beskar or slightly better.

            I think wolverine would win in that fight. He’s got lots of experience fighting many different enemies varied power including “throw things at him” and can take a ton of damage. In contrast vader will be a bit surprised by the healing abilities, commentary and hidden armor.

            • tias@discuss.tchncs.de
              4·
              11 months ago

              That was my initial thought too. But if Vader can stay at a distance and force-choke Wolverine until he’s passed out, then Vader could move in after it’s safe and basically burn up every ounce of Wolverine’s body except for the adamantium using the light saber.

          • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
            3·
            11 months ago

            Nah, the heat thing they’re shown melting through blast doors. It at least happens pretty early on in Phantom Menace, and pretty sure I saw it happen in some Disney SW somewhere, too.

            • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              11 months ago

              That’s blast doors of an unspecified metal. If it follows the usual SW materials where such things are specified, they wouldn’t be exotic materials, they’d be alloys of standard metals on the real periodic table.

              That’s why I say that I’m giving the benefit of the doubt to the light saber. They reach plasma temps, which is hot as hell, but wolvie has taken hits from plasma generated by technology and super powers. If it was a sustained thing, maybe; but a fight doesn’t allow for sustained contact.

              I mean, obviously, it would depend on who was in charge of the writing decisions. But us nerds have to guesstimate as best we can. In SW universe there are exotics that can resist the sabers both under short and sustained contact. Adamantium is pretty exotic, and is canon about as close to indestructible as it gets.

              Light sabers aren’t really meant to be unstoppable, they’re not an ultimate weapon. They’re a high tech, very effective sword that uses coherent energy that generates high heat on contact. There’s limits the what they can do.

              It’s one of those things where sabers have been written to have limits more often than Adamantium has, so I err on that side of things.

              • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
                2·
                11 months ago

                Yea, I just mean light sabers have a heat component to some weird degree. How ever that interacts with Wolverine or his adamantium is indeed a whole other thing. lol

                I definitely agree adamantium should be able to stop a light saber whether or not it gets heated by continued blocking. I think at some point, Wolverine wouldn’t much like trying to live with a heated skeleton. But I mean, isn’t that also how the adamantium got there? Seems like he’d survive extended exposure either way, too.

        • bassomitron@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          11 months ago

          I’d think so, as far as I’m aware they can cut thru any metal if given enough time. In the movies and TV show the only thing that fully blocks sabers is another plasma/laser type thing.

          • mosiacmango@lemm.ee
            11·
            11 months ago

            Enough time is the key phrase here. Adamantium absorbs a goldly amount of energy in the marvel universe, to the point of being literally “unbreakable” in a canon with a fuck ton of different energy blasts/weapons.

            Vader aint going to melt it in the span of a hand to hand fight filled with glancing nipple saber blows.

            Sans force powers, wolverine takes this.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      41·
      11 months ago

      The actual winner would be Snake Eyes from G.I. Joe, who comes down from the ceiling, does sick throwing star moves and kills both.

    • Rodeo@lemmy.ca
      9·
      11 months ago

      No idea is too ridiculous for anime. I’ve hardly even seen any anime and I’ve seen some ridiculous shit.

    • palordrolap@kbin.social
      11·
      11 months ago

      You clearly haven’t seen the comic where Captain America’s shield hits its target with the onomatopoeia “WANK”