I would like to address the doomers.
Just stop. All you are accomplished is dissuading people from trying. Even if we fail, some of us would rather go out feeling good about ourselves knowing that we actually tried. If we succeed, I want to be on the right side of history. If you want to drive a canyonero through a drive through to buy a double cheeseburger on your way to the airport to fly somewhere for a shopping trip: please keep it to yourself.
- There is still hope
- Most people want action. I can cite more than one source.
- Things are starting to turn around. Not as fast as we need to, but we are seeing change
- Some of us are parents and have a reason to fight with all we have
- If things get bad, our kids will actually want to have a relationship with us if we cared enough to try
- Many things that help are economically better on the micro and macro scales
Doomers are the fossil fuel industry’s best friend-- even more than the deniers are. If enough people succumb to it, they don’t even have to pay lip service to the problem. Doomerism means you can continue to pollute and not even try.
Nah.
Pretending things aren’t completely fucked hasn’t worked for the last 50 years, it’s not going to start now.
Besides, I don’t think there’s ever been a case where someone starts a slap fight online, than makes a new post talking about how dumb an opinion is when the other person gives up explaining.
People that do that shit aren’t usually the ones to be listening to about anything.
If someone says the climate is fucked and there’s zero signs the people in power will do anything, they’re not a “doomer” they’re accepting reality. And it doesn’t mean they’ve given up either. Just that they’re not blind and mindless
This is the problem, though. This is hyperbole. “Zero signs?” Citation needed. It is not self-evident, and using your experiences as evidence is just confirmation bias.
And that was OP’s point. You might see it as a forgone conclusion, but that’s not necessarily objective reality.
Not zero,but so far below what is neededthat ‘doomer’ is a ridiculous characterisation of ‘realist’. Anyone who thinks we’re dealing with the problem is delusional.
You’re confusing cynic with realist. The realists are the climate scientists, who have yet to say humanity is doomed.
Oh hanity will live on. We’re a pretty adaptable species, but not as numerous or as comfortable.
Or, we could try our best to prevent it on the chance that billions of people don’t have to die.