I think the right knows they’re being silly when they act offended by “cracker”, and so does everybody else. When I was a dumb highschool kid I recall having a conversation with one of my dumb kid friends about this, and laughing at the word “cracker” because how could it possibly be offensive to us white people? It signifies no shame or perceived lower status, unlike other slurs. Libs get this even if they pretend not to.
edit: just to add, I think all you need to do is point out that anybody pretending to be offended by cracker is really just mad they’re not allowed to use actual offensive slurs, not at the word “cracker”
If some chud tries to equate cracker with the n-word that’s a fight worth having: persuadable people instinctively know we’re right and you can educate people by explaining why. There is actually something to gain there, because the reason is basically structural racism, a topic most people do not adequately understand, much less confront.
What’s silly is insisting that a term insulting one’s skin color isn’t racist at all. You get nothing out of that fight you don’t already get out of “of course cracker isn’t anywhere near as bad as the n-word,” but now most people are thinking “I don’t know, ripping on someone’s skin color seems pretty racist to me.”
But my point is, anybody who takes issue with “cracker” is absolutely just angry they can’t call black people the N word. Every other bit of this “debate” just boils down to, can white people be upset they’re not allowed to say slurs? The answer is no.
Structural racism exists, but so does individualized racism, where someone acts on racial prejudices even if they lack institutional backing.
If a black American manager gives their white employees all the shit assignments because they don’t like white people, that is individually
racist, even though the U.S. is structurally racist against black people. Similarly, you can point to racist actions white people take against black people that are much more individualized than structural. Some white asshole who walks into a black neighborhood and shouts the n-word until he gets beat up is being racist, but that doesn’t amount to structural racism. He’s not redlining, he’s not writing carceral policy to target black people, he’s not running a highway through a black neighborhood.
Racism is not an individual action and I disagree with you trying to change the definition to align with liberals incorrect understanding of words, especially here.
This is what people are getting mad at you for I think. I don’t care how you personally dance around liberal brainworms talking to your lib friends or whatever, but here we understand what words mean and if you are seriously trying to redefine racism to include “individualized racism” which is literally not a thing at all then we are going to have problems.
trying to change the definition to align with liberals incorrect understanding of words
We are the ones trying to change the definition. No one outside of small leftist communities thinks racism means structural racism only. We can’t be this disconnected from ordinary people and hope to get anything done.
Also intentionally calling someone something they find insulting because you know that they find it insulting and then instructing them that they shouldn’t be insulted by it is just a silly waste of time.
Its like calling someone a removed and then pontificating about how actually vaginas are beautiful and important. They’re not annoyed because they’re a misogynist. They’re annoyed because they knew what you meant by it
Sure, maybe that’s what some people in the west believe racism means, but they have the incorrect impression. It’s not commandist to correct errors in the thinking of the people.
I too love discussing race issues from the comfort of the hypotheticals I made up inside my head.
“Yes, a white supremacist walking into a black neighborhood to terrorize them is just like that asshole manager that I had who gave me extra work. Both of them were individually racist.”
The whole structural vs interpersonal racism distinction gets very muddy once you realize that they both are always present together. You just end up tone policing for racists or in endless circlejerk.
I think the right knows they’re being silly when they act offended by “cracker”, and so does everybody else. When I was a dumb highschool kid I recall having a conversation with one of my dumb kid friends about this, and laughing at the word “cracker” because how could it possibly be offensive to us white people? It signifies no shame or perceived lower status, unlike other slurs. Libs get this even if they pretend not to.
edit: just to add, I think all you need to do is point out that anybody pretending to be offended by cracker is really just mad they’re not allowed to use actual offensive slurs, not at the word “cracker”
If some chud tries to equate cracker with the n-word that’s a fight worth having: persuadable people instinctively know we’re right and you can educate people by explaining why. There is actually something to gain there, because the reason is basically structural racism, a topic most people do not adequately understand, much less confront.
What’s silly is insisting that a term insulting one’s skin color isn’t racist at all. You get nothing out of that fight you don’t already get out of “of course cracker isn’t anywhere near as bad as the n-word,” but now most people are thinking “I don’t know, ripping on someone’s skin color seems pretty racist to me.”
Picking your battles is good, actually.
But my point is, anybody who takes issue with “cracker” is absolutely just angry they can’t call black people the N word. Every other bit of this “debate” just boils down to, can white people be upset they’re not allowed to say slurs? The answer is no.
Probably because its just a radlib term
So is racism a structure or not? Incoherent reddit comment lol
Structural racism exists, but so does individualized racism, where someone acts on racial prejudices even if they lack institutional backing.
If a black American manager gives their white employees all the shit assignments because they don’t like white people, that is individually racist, even though the U.S. is structurally racist against black people. Similarly, you can point to racist actions white people take against black people that are much more individualized than structural. Some white asshole who walks into a black neighborhood and shouts the n-word until he gets beat up is being racist, but that doesn’t amount to structural racism. He’s not redlining, he’s not writing carceral policy to target black people, he’s not running a highway through a black neighborhood.
Racism is not an individual action and I disagree with you trying to change the definition to align with liberals incorrect understanding of words, especially here.
This is what people are getting mad at you for I think. I don’t care how you personally dance around liberal brainworms talking to your lib friends or whatever, but here we understand what words mean and if you are seriously trying to redefine racism to include “individualized racism” which is literally not a thing at all then we are going to have problems.
We are the ones trying to change the definition. No one outside of small leftist communities thinks racism means structural racism only. We can’t be this disconnected from ordinary people and hope to get anything done.
No we are educating people
Also intentionally calling someone something they find insulting because you know that they find it insulting and then instructing them that they shouldn’t be insulted by it is just a silly waste of time.
Its like calling someone a removed and then pontificating about how actually vaginas are beautiful and important. They’re not annoyed because they’re a misogynist. They’re annoyed because they knew what you meant by it
Sure, maybe that’s what some people in the west believe racism means, but they have the incorrect impression. It’s not commandist to correct errors in the thinking of the people.
I too love discussing race issues from the comfort of the hypotheticals I made up inside my head.
“Yes, a white supremacist walking into a black neighborhood to terrorize them is just like that asshole manager that I had who gave me extra work. Both of them were individually racist.”
The whole structural vs interpersonal racism distinction gets very muddy once you realize that they both are always present together. You just end up tone policing for racists or in endless circlejerk.