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      TBH, O’brien’s been on the Enterprise long enough to know that when weird, seemingly powerful creatures start talking to you, you should be very, very careful. Even if they present themselves as storybook characters.

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    Because you get to see Odo herding animals and Bashir getting extremely embarrassed.

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    I watched this for the first time yesterday. Going through DS9 starting from Season 1.

    I don’t hate it, but it can be skipped as it has nothing to do with anything after. Actually the more I think about it the less I like it. I do like how the aliens are basically explorers just like Starfleet just different. That’s a spoiler but honestly who cares lol

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      To give some context: DS9 is from the 90s, where series were basically stand alone episodes with occasional two parters.

      That said, DS9 is one of the first series that break that. Not in the first season maybe and I’m not going to spoil you but there are archs that are returned to in several episodes, things that change for good and stories that expend the 90s two parter by alot.

      This isn’t much compared to modern standards and you don’t have to like it, but it’s not as bad as the first season suggests and it’s progressive for its time. Maybe that helps you to appreciate the series but maybe it doesn’t, take it or leave it.

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        I’ve seen a bunch of DS9 when it was fresh on TV especially when Worf joined in but there are a lot of missing episodes I haven’t seen yet. So the overall arching plot is known to me.

        It’s these weird one off bottle episodes that are new to me.

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      There is one small thing linking this episode to the rest - Sisko’s baseball. The alien posing as Buck Bokai gives Sisko the ball that spends the rest of the series on his desk. I also actually quite like all of the interactions between Sisko and Bokai.

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        So that IS his baseball? I wasn’t 100% but I did wonder for a second. Neat.

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      A lot of Season 1 is skippable if you feel like it. I’m sure there’s a website out there with essential Season 1 episodes, but they didn’t really know what they were doing with the show yet.

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    Because Keone Young is a fucking treasure.

    Besides, the bottle episode “The Sound Of Her Voice” takes this award.

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      Really? I very much like “the sound of her voice”. For me “Profit and Lace” is by far the worst. No competition.

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          Idk if I would really call it any of those. Characters in it are those but the episode itself was constantly showcasing that these things are bad. One thing I especially liked was the parts where they had to learn how women move since practicing being a specific gender is a real thing trans people do and deal with.

          Throughout the episode multiple characters are being shown being misogynistic, transphobic and so on… But then being that is now shown as good it’s being actively shown as part of the problem with the ferengi that they are trying to solve.

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        I just find that the A story detracts from the Dominion Wars storyline that everything had been building up to, and the B story is just uninteresting with Jake following Quark’s antics to distract Odo with Kira. At least 'Profit And Lace" had some comedy in it to make up for things.

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          The B story is meh, but the A story to me really adds to the dominion storyline by giving us a chance to see how the war has affected the crew through their interactions with someone who hasn’t experienced it. Plus add in a fun little sci-fi twist to it and it’s really a good plot line for me.

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    I must have slept through this one. Can someone tell me which season/episode this is? I don’t remember it at all

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      Incorrect. The episode with Jake having the most screen time is The Visitor and that episode is a gem.

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        Since that’s a cheat, there’s also Progress, where Nog and Jake end up with the self-sealing stem bolts and the yamak sauce. I think it’s pretty amusing anyway.

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        Probably an unpopular opinion but I did not like that one. The drama felt super cheap since I knew that Sisko had plot armour and therefore the resolution to the episode would need to be some time travel nonsense where none of it mattered.

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          The destination is rarely the point of most high-concept sci-fi. Rather, the journey is what is important.

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        Ugh. It would be a gem to me if it weren’t directly after the Klingons and Worf entering the story. It’s like a mixtape that starts off with two Metallica songs amd goes straight into Joni Mitchell.

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        On the other hand, quite bold of Star Trek to imagine a future where people read things instead of watched cat videos.

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      I feel like Sisko is a much worse offender tbh. Whoever played Jake just did too good a job of immitating Sisko.

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        Sure Ben Sisko lied, cheated, bribed men to cover up the crimes of other men. He’s even an accessory to murder. But Jake is so whiny, so I think I can live with it… And if I had to watch Deep Space 9 all over again… I would skip Jake heavy episodes. So I will learn to use the skip button, because I can live with not rewatching every episode.