• Nollij@sopuli.xyz
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    1 year ago

    Possibly illegal, depending on your local laws.

    If it is legal, contact your congressman (local, state, national) because it sure as hell needs to be illegal.

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      Very unlikely. There’s a statement at the bottom that explains what the fee is. There’s a QR code at the top for more information, which OP cut off.

      I doubt they went through the effort of updating their POS system, providing links to info on the receipt, and chose not to post a sign or put a note on the menu. Everywhere I have been with a service fee like this posts it, which would negate any legal issue.

      Caveat emptor.

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        It’s illegal if the fact that a service fee would be added wasn’t shared before ordering (on the menu / by the waiter /…)

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        Possibly. Local laws vary heavily, and could limit hidden fees like these. If the franchise is in one of these places, but the parent chain is not, it could easily be implemented despite being illegal. It’s a similar case if the local operator didn’t have the required notices in the required way, since it would be done separately. Not necessarily out of malice, but a ton of places simply do not run a tight ship. The receipt is absolutely not the place these notices are required; that’s just a convenience.

        It’s also possible that the POS has a bunch of options that can easily be set by management without involving lawyers. A required tip (often for large groups, but not always) is an easy use case for this. So are the various messages, including the tipping scale, or adding a promotional QR code (e.g. scan the code to fill out a survey and get $5 off your next visit)

        In any event, I stand behind my advice- check if it’s illegal, and push to make it illegal.

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      So you carefully included every possible level of US government, but still forgot about the entire rest of the world.

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        First, many places have a local, state, and national government. Particularly the ones that use dollars and expect an additional tip, as shown on the receipt.

        Stop trying to be offended at everything.

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          My country, which has dollars and expects tips, doesn’t. And this read like it was addressing unexpected fees at restaurants in general.

          Stop pretending Americans don’t do this constantly. Everyone who’s not American is very familiar with it, and honestly it’s understandable with how big and self-contained that country is. I might not even have commented if it wasn’t for the remarkable thoroughness short of that detail.

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            I presume you’re in Canada. Aside from calling them provinces, and possibly having a different name for your legislative representatives, are you saying you DON’T have a local, state, and national government where my advice would be relevant?

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              No, you’re advice was great. I just found the phrasing weird enough to point out. Sorry if it came across as angry.

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        The rest of the world doesn’t exist, it’s just a scam made up by the passport cartel to fleece you of your money every few years.

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        Let’s see… dollar sign? Well that cuts out a lot of the world. Written in English, so that leaves about 3 countries. Australia doesn’t have a tipping culture the same way we do in North America so that leaves either Canada or the US, in which case you can replace state with province and cover your bases.

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          Percentages on the tip are lower than US tip amounts. So I would guess not US, though this would obviously happen in the states.

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            Do other countries itemize tax separately? I thought the US was alone on that.

            Also, 9.5% is in line with sales tax in a few US states, as is calling it tax instead of VAT (or similar)

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            Good catch, I didn’t even notice the percentages. I did look at the date but of course the meal was purchased on the one day this month where that’s not helpful

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          Don’t forget New Zealand. They do tip down under, but it sounds like they don’t recommend tips the same way.

          Yeah, sure, the jist applies everywhere. OP could have saved words just saying “representitives”. That’s the part that was interesting, and now people are big butthurt I pointed it out.

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            I mentioned all 3 because people (at least around me) tend to forget the first 2, despite those being much easier to make these types of changes.

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          It looks exactly like a receipt that could be here, too. As has been repeatedly pointed out to me, there’s only 2 to 4 countries this could apply to, but you’ll excuse me for expecting the same thing as always was happening.