Safe Streets Rebel’s protest comes after automatic vehicles were blamed for incidents including crashing into a bus and running over a dog. City officials in June said…

  • howrar@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    1 year ago

    Can we instead have self driving buses?

    I’m envisioning a system where you tell it your location and where you want to go, then it automatically sets up a route for the bus that coincides with where most people want to go and tells you to get off when it’s near your destination. This can work in conjunction with self driving taxis if no one else is going to your destination.

    • Kuinox@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Maybe minibus but in no way it will works with full sized bus.
      The ideal bus to commute is a bus line with frequent bus, you don’t have to check the time, just show up and in a few minutes there is a bus.

    • SCB@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      You’re not gonna get self-driving buses without self-driving cars first, so this protest is directly fucking you out of what you want

    • GladiusB@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      19
      ·
      1 year ago

      The problem is no one will use them. Busses are full of homeless people and people that NEED to use them than they want to. I was a bus driver for many years. They don’t stop where everyone wants to go and it’s a necessity to most instead of an integrated way of life. The entire American culture would need to change.

        • GladiusB@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 year ago

          For sure. However do you change something that is mostly government subsidized and everyone that manages the systems are happy with the operations?

          • Spzi@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            everyone that manages the systems are happy with the operations?

            Is that the case? I suppose most car drivers are not happy with sitting in traffic jams. Better public transport would help.

      • howrar@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        1 year ago

        I don’t know how it is in the US, but i can tell you that public transit is pretty good here in my city. A self-driving taxi would still be the ideal experience for sure, but taking a bus isn’t that much worse, and it’s definitely better than driving myself.

      • Spzi@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Busses are full of homeless people and people that NEED to use them than they want to.

        I heard this is the case in the United States. In Europe, as far as I can tell, it’s more common that people from all backgrounds take public transit, including ‘higher’ class people. Of course exceptions and reasons exist.

      • xSPYXEx@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        That literally just proves that we do in fact need more busses. More vehicles would allow for a wider coverage with more frequent and well organized stops.

        • GladiusB@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          I like your idea, but implementing it is a bigger issue than you may realize. The transit systems in San Francisco are based on counties. Therefore it is a completely different governing body for each way out of the city proper.

          But coverage does not change the usage. That is several millions if not billions to reroute a busline to go to a different area. If only 10 people get on every two hours then another bus in a more populated area is more financially sound. We can sit and say more buses are the answer, but people being willing to get on to the bus is a part of the equation. I don’t see how you are going to eliminate 2 extra hours out of everyone’s commute and make them buy into it.