• SolanumChillEse@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        And? NATO is a defensive alliance. There’s nothing stopping them from going in.

        The Baltics are just perfectly content to let Ukrainians die if it kills some Russians as well. Not sure why Ukrainians have to die if there is an actual fear of Russia advancing further than Ukraine. They’re not a meat shield for Europe. The Baltics should actually nut up if they believe even half the shit they’re saying about Russian expansionism.

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      1 year ago

      Can you just google before giving this kind of opinion, NATO members cant go to war if other members do not agree. Sending people to fight would be the same as going to war.

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        1 year ago

        That’s not how NATO works. So maybe you should try googling a little harder. Otherwise Germany and France would have been in Iraq. NATO is a defensive alliance. You can send troops to Ukraine. Literally nothing is stopping you if you believe it’s a matter of national security in the future.

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              1 year ago

              So if you are so well educated, why do you think we are not sending troops? Please enlighten me with your knowledge.

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                1 year ago

                because russia has nukes, and sending troops usually requires a declaration of war.

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                1 year ago

                Because no one actually believes Russia has ambitions outside of Ukraine. And if they actually do believe that and don’t want to send their own troops in, it’s absolutely shameful and cynical to be using Ukrainians as their human shields.

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                  So when putin said in his speech that he wants to take back ex-soviet states, he wasnt talking seriously? And when he sayed he will drop nukes if nato troops enter Ukraine, he was joking? And why use Ukraine as human shields if we could give them more weapons so they wouldnt die?

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                    1 year ago

                    He literally said the opposite of that.

                    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-tells-ex-soviet-republics-ukraine-was-an-exception-report-2022-02-22/

                    But if he can’t be trusted and he’s coming for the Baltics, then you should be enlisting and pressuring the Baltic states to deploy.

                    Instead you’re letting Ukraine do the dirty work or you don’t actually believe this.

                    The entire war has been an escalating game of nuclear chicken for NATO anyway. If Europe is under imminent Russian threat, then you can’t be deterred by the threat of nukes. Otherwise you should just let Russia march through to Paris.

                    Sending weapons so Ukraine so they can defend themselves is logical. Sending weapons so they can defend YOU is shameful.