• Cowbee@lemm.ee
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    A number of reasons. Just like you claim a Communist party almost destroyed your country, Capitalist parties destroy and are destroying many countries as well. The existence of bad Communist parties does not itself mean Communism is structurally a bad thing, as pursuit of a Stateless, Classless, Moneyless society is a noble goal for humanity.

    I think it’s fair to say that decentralization is a good check against Authoritarianism, and as such, this should be extended to the workplace, not just government.

    As far as why Lemmy leans left, the founder is a Communist, and principles of decentralization and federation tend to appeal far more to leftists, while Capitalist-inclined individuals have Reddit.

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      Heads up, this guy is a troll. His sole, self declared purpose is to be an asshole and pick fights. Not worth engaging

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        I don’t believe you. This sounds like the sort of thing a person could say to poison the well against someone else, unless someone demands proof.

        So where is this statement of purpose?

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          Also, some of his other greatest hits include denying that the holocaust was so bad because “not all the jews died”, outright claiming that “Fossil fuels are recyclable” in a single sentence comment in a debate about why he thinks evs are bullshit, and laying out an explicit violent fantasy about magdumping into a theoretical person who might strike him for any reason.

          One of his most recent comments just says, “violence has never not worked”

          Do go read some of his exchanges for yourself and determine if I’m just poisoning the well.

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          I was born into this world for no other reason than to be intolerant towards self righteous idiots like yourself who do more harm than good with their naive infantile worldview.

          Also if you pulled your head out of your ass, you’d notice I’ve been pretty tolerant of your stupidity, but it can only go so far. I’m not trying to sound less shitty either, I simply added more to my reply, the reasons as to why that you made up in your head aren’t my problem to deal with.

          In the end, people like you end up full fascist psychopaths who kill people they don’t like because that’s better than allowing people to say things you don’t like.

          The self righteous part in question that he’s born to be against, is literally just claiming to be tolerant. Not bludgeoning people with tolerance, not using tolerance as a weapon to silence people as he claims. Just labeling oneself “tolerant”, and the general idea of tolerance. He also spent several comments doubling down. Maybe go read the exchange and see for yourself?

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      It’s not so much the existence of bad communism that indicates communism is a structurally bad thing, quite so much as the utter lack of good communism that indicates communism is a structurally bad thing.

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        That’s certainly enough to form a hypothesis, but far, far from proof against it. There aren’t any “good” developing countries either.

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      principles of decentralization and federation tend to appeal far more to leftists

      Absolute load of shit, just like your false dichotomy of capitalism vs communism. Neither affects politics. In fact countries are being destroyed by the same type of people, they don’t give a fuck if they’re playing communism or capitalism today.

      … As for why majority of countries are capitalist and not the system that has never been tried, that’s because people always want to outsource decisions to someone else and when the people own means of production, there can be no production, only people inclined to produce do produce.

      Classless society is impossible when 80% of people are worthless lackeys and only 20% of people even dream of doing something.

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        Lmao, none of what you just said actually meant anything, beyond you hating humanity and deepthroating Capitalist boot.

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          Yes I’m misanthrope, what are you gonna do about it? Spout more bullshit that makes me hate you even more?

          Colonial insects are the only ones who made communism work and that’s because they’re insects, goodluck with this knowledge.

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            Spout more bullshit that makes me hate you even more?

            Bad form, troll. It’s weakness to let your mark know that you hate them

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            You don’t actually have any points, though. Your whole thing is that “good thing bad because it hurts my feelings,” lmao.

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              You’re the one whose feelings get hurt every time I tell you that the only ones who implemented communism successfully have no feelings. They don’t even have a brain, ants and bees are more like machines, unlike humans who have hopes, dreams, and aspirations, and some humans aspire to rock the boat which is why goymmunism will never ever work in our species.

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                What would a human who has hopes, dreams, and aspirations do to rock the boat in Communism? Why do you think Communism is based on requiring everyone not have hopes, dreams, and aspirations?

                You don’t actually know, your feelings are just hurt and so you lash out.

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                  What would a human who has hopes, dreams, and aspirations do to rock the boat in Communism?

                  Anything other than what the democratically-decided master economic plan says they should be doing.

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                    So same as Capitalism, but without the democracy. Sounds like Communism is better.

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                    Yea, so you don’t actually understand Marx, and I’m correct. Glad you could prove me right!

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        when 80% of people are worthless lackeys and only 20% of people even dream of doing something.

        Man, I thought you said yesterday that your parents raised you right? The more I see you, the more it’s clear that they mostly just raised a cynical asshole. I guess that’s par for the course for a troll picking fights on obscure social media

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      I’m just laughing to myself about the thought of Reddit being primarily capitalist. Lol

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        It’s a for-profit, Capitalist business that runs it, ergo its Capitalist. The user base is largely liberal, which is still pro-Capitalism. You tend to see more Anarchists and Communists on Lemmy by proportion.