• electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    I mean fuck that guy for sure. But do you really believe everyone is entitled to inalienable rights? Above is a long story (popular here, it seems) about Lenin acting on his own authority to have people shot for causing some dissatisfactions. What about nazis, or cops. I don’t give a fuck for their inalienable rights, do you?

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      8 months ago

      Yes. It’s not all that hard to recognize the human rights of those people and to understand that sometimes they must be shot.

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        8 months ago

        So… ‘aliable’ then? I don’t even disagree, I just don’t pretend to believe in it.

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          8 months ago

          No, they still have human rights. Like, in a war you shoot soldiers who are trying to shoot you. If they surrender, you treat them as POWs, you don’t torture them or murder them. If a person is harming other people, you stop the harm but you don’t dehumanize them. It’s important to be consistent here.

          It’s important to draw the distinction that those cops and Nazis you mentioned are in the conversation because of choices they make or beliefs they hold. Were they to stop making those choices, they would not be subject to violence. Even with the choices they make, were they to not harm others with their beliefs, I wouldn’t have a problem with them holding said beliefs. The obvious problem is fascism doesn’t build a cabin in the woods isolating themselves from everyone else.