good reminder that platform holders like spotify and then labels hold almost all that revenue and artists see barely any of it. This has been true forever but the addition of spotifies and apple musics in the mix just removes more money from artists in this equation.
Just another reason to buy music from the artists own website, if they have one.
It’ll likely be seen as “lost revenue” and therefore piracy by the holders, as I don’t imagine that they include small individual sites in their surveys, but the artist will get more money in the end and that’s what matters.
Yeah, from what I can find their operating profit was in the negatives every year.
Not sure how much of their costs go to the label vs. Server and employee costs, though. It’s possible they take more of a cut than retail stores do regardless. Bandwidth isn’t cheap, and software devs aren’t cheap either.
In any case, the artist sees very little of that money.
They have 10000 employees. No, I don’t understand why, either. They take the vast majority of the cut. They pay somewhere between $0.002 and 0.005 a stream. So if you stream your favourite song 500 times, your favourite artist might get a penny depending on label cut.
I’m seeing $0.003-$0.008 per steam, still peanuts though. Same article says the following though:
Spotify has not reported an annual net profit in all the years its been public. Part of this is due to the royalty fee split it has with publishers, in which it only takes 30 percent of profits.
so it’s not like Spotify are taking all the money from the artists, it does seem like it’s still the labels raking it in.
this is a really helpful place to talk about how profits != revenue.
So after spotify pays itself all the money it might want to take from subscriptions and ad revenue, you are left with the “profits” which now get split 30% in favour of spotify.
Nah, Spotify and Apple Music etc increase money that artists get due to the massive increase in exposure and fans that they bring. Artists have always made nothing from music sales, it has always all been from shows and merch. Now they just have a bigger audience.
good reminder that platform holders like spotify and then labels hold almost all that revenue and artists see barely any of it. This has been true forever but the addition of spotifies and apple musics in the mix just removes more money from artists in this equation.
Just another reason to buy music from the artists own website, if they have one.
It’ll likely be seen as “lost revenue” and therefore piracy by the holders, as I don’t imagine that they include small individual sites in their surveys, but the artist will get more money in the end and that’s what matters.
Doesn’t everyone always say that Spotify rarely/barely make a profit? Don’t they still have to give most of their money to the labels?
Yeah, from what I can find their operating profit was in the negatives every year.
Not sure how much of their costs go to the label vs. Server and employee costs, though. It’s possible they take more of a cut than retail stores do regardless. Bandwidth isn’t cheap, and software devs aren’t cheap either.
In any case, the artist sees very little of that money.
They have 10000 employees. No, I don’t understand why, either. They take the vast majority of the cut. They pay somewhere between $0.002 and 0.005 a stream. So if you stream your favourite song 500 times, your favourite artist might get a penny depending on label cut.
I’m seeing $0.003-$0.008 per steam, still peanuts though. Same article says the following though:
so it’s not like Spotify are taking all the money from the artists, it does seem like it’s still the labels raking it in.
this is a really helpful place to talk about how profits != revenue.
So after spotify pays itself all the money it might want to take from subscriptions and ad revenue, you are left with the “profits” which now get split 30% in favour of spotify.
True, it’s all creative accounting to obfuscate what’s actually going on
Nah, Spotify and Apple Music etc increase money that artists get due to the massive increase in exposure and fans that they bring. Artists have always made nothing from music sales, it has always all been from shows and merch. Now they just have a bigger audience.