• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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    They were never olive branches. They were grasping claws to try and make you act like them, not to understand a different perspective. Once they realized they couldn’t pull more people over, the spears come out. It’s what a desperate loser does when they become the minority: Try to restore majority control, even if that means literally changing the numbers of people who count.

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      This is it - violence was always the intent… They just lack the power to get away with the violence, so they work toward it.

      If everyone they don’t like is raping kids (pay no attention to the projection to justify their own actions), what should we do about that? I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say this would escalate to death camps almost immediately.

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        Why would they bother with death camps? That implies they give a shit enough to keep it a secret.

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          What about a large institution that large numbers of people are ferried to before being slaughtered seems secretive to you?

          It’s not as though there’s a number of historical examples of exactly this kind of thing, right?

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            I mean, there were a shitload of Germans that stated they didn’t know what was happening. Seems like they did a decent job of keeping it a secret from them.

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              Yeah - the SS were kicking in my neighbours’ doors and violently hauling them away, never to be seen again as they spout genocidal rhetoric… I’m sure they just took them to a farm upstate where they can run and play all day. Also, your family dog is still alive at 27 - he went to live with them too.

              Any plausible deniability faded pretty quickly on that one given the overt rhetoric and actions of those involved. Gellately talks about this reasonably extensively.

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                  This is flirting with holocaust denial.

                  Do you think the millions of people killed in the death camps just thought “Hey, seems like time for a change - I’ll leave my home, often with just the clothes on my back, and cram myself into a train to the east - it’ll be great!”

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                    Huh?? My point is that most of the horrible shit that happened in death camps was outside Germany in the places they annexed.

                    What a weird assumption to make, that I’m suggesting the holocaust didn’t happen because I’m asking you specifics. You throw your anecdote out then suggest that it refutes what’s been documented.