On one hand we could just hang the techbro CEOs/execs and burn down their shitty social media servers then maybe the “internet” would go back to being more than the same 3 shit websites?
On the other hand I don’t know if there is a cure for someone that spent 10 years on reddit.
Its really odd to immediately relate “watching porn at your childs birth” to be an ADHD symptom, in the context of this comment, rather than “the circus box in your pocket is causing peoples brains to melt from the constant circus intake”.
ADHD is basically only a disability in the context of a hyper-atomized society where everyone is responsible for their own tiny kingdom. Its anachronistic to modern “sit down in your box” lifestyles, and probably far more useful in survival or communal scenarios.
In this theoretical world where phones are outlawed and millions are in rehabilitation camps, I’m going to assume there’s a lot of other shit being done, a lot of communal actions and new responsibilities I’d bet, probably plenty of room for our easily distracted asses to use our pattern matching and reward mechanisms to help the community, while other community members tell us to wash our stinky asses because we’re too occupied with sorting produce to notice.
Even without the greater context of the post, its so tiring to hear people with ADHD spoken about like they’re some kind of hedonism bot without greater executive control. I live a daily life where I constantly forget what I’m doing, deal with the shame of not being able to focus on tasks like my peers, and overall start at the back of the pack in any metaphorical race and need to play catch up.
Our current society is optimized in a way that exacerbates ADHD symptoms sure, but making an exaggerated joke about undoing this societal damage isn’t some “hexbear hates people with adhd” take.
There’s some deeply embedded infantilization that occurs in discussions about people with neurodiverse disorders that effect executive function. It’s one thing to have an explanation and identify why things take place. Its something else to take a leap and hard-associate the overuse/abuse of the most widespread device in human history with ADHD as if its some kind of cultural right to melt your neurons into a slurry with a constant flow of the garbage that is pushed on social media and beyond.
And, at any point, did you ever consider that my response could have been exaggerated as well?
No I did not an I’m sorry for that.
Was the original comment you responded to edited? I notice you keep using “reeducation” when the comment said “rehabilitation”, which might be cause for why we’re arguing.
Cease
Respected, have a good day, sorry to be annoying and fighting for a debate.
I was a bit rude too, possibly because I hold some self-resentment myself, but also I’ve had to derive my own methods for dealing with things, and tend to feel like we don’t talk the "what next"s enough.
It feels good to be given the space to be a bit special and have needs accounted for, but i’ve found it all goes out the window when you need to go out and do things. Every time I’ve given myself that space, I take it for granted and have an even harder time participating in “normal” spaces, which hurts even more than if I just kept up the momentum. I can’t expect the people I meet in day to day life to have a grasp on my condition. They’ve got other stuff going on. The “normal” spaces will always exist to an extent. Someone working 10 hours a day out of the back of a van won’t have the energy or care to educate themselves on conditions unless its personal.
Like I think as a community we should have more people offering help to break certain comfort-based cycles. Addiction is the same for anything, and you need to want to break the cycle to get better. I don’t think we should shame people for being addicted, but we should still encourage improvement. When I see sentiments that are basically “its okay” without the second step, it makes me feel frustrated because having a safe space wont help me the next time I piss someone off for being a little too autistic. I need to catch it ahead of time and understand myself better to interface with the rest of the world.
I’m sorry the phones are such a liability for everyone else. ☹️ My smartphone is a huge help in dealing with my ADHD. My to-do list and reminders and calendars are the only things keeping my life from completely falling apart.
I disagree, people don’t choose to be educated wrong or indoctrinated, reeducation already doesn’t imply moral failure or responsibility for those being re-educated
Pretty sure we just shoot the ones who knew what they were doing and did it anyway, like ideological nazis
I hope for a future when I am cited for reeducation after rightfully being called out on my whatver the word for boomer-bullshit for my generation will, cause my brain is a rotted mess despite my best efforts and reading of communism books
being wrong and learning right should be awesome not this dramatic punitive bullshit we have now
Having the internet on any pocket-sized device should be outlawed and hundreds of millions of people need to be put into rehabilitation camps.
On one hand we could just hang the techbro CEOs/execs and burn down their shitty social media servers then maybe the “internet” would go back to being more than the same 3 shit websites?
On the other hand I don’t know if there is a cure for someone that spent 10 years on reddit.
No more LCD screens. Make everything electric ink, like those e-readers.
LCD televisions are still allowed, but it cannot have more than 256KB of RAM
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Honestly as a person with adhd someone should come and confiscate my smartphone
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Yeah, that part is bad
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Its really odd to immediately relate “watching porn at your childs birth” to be an ADHD symptom, in the context of this comment, rather than “the circus box in your pocket is causing peoples brains to melt from the constant circus intake”.
ADHD is basically only a disability in the context of a hyper-atomized society where everyone is responsible for their own tiny kingdom. Its anachronistic to modern “sit down in your box” lifestyles, and probably far more useful in survival or communal scenarios.
In this theoretical world where phones are outlawed and millions are in rehabilitation camps, I’m going to assume there’s a lot of other shit being done, a lot of communal actions and new responsibilities I’d bet, probably plenty of room for our easily distracted asses to use our pattern matching and reward mechanisms to help the community, while other community members tell us to wash our stinky asses because we’re too occupied with sorting produce to notice.
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Even without the greater context of the post, its so tiring to hear people with ADHD spoken about like they’re some kind of hedonism bot without greater executive control. I live a daily life where I constantly forget what I’m doing, deal with the shame of not being able to focus on tasks like my peers, and overall start at the back of the pack in any metaphorical race and need to play catch up.
Our current society is optimized in a way that exacerbates ADHD symptoms sure, but making an exaggerated joke about undoing this societal damage isn’t some “hexbear hates people with adhd” take.
There’s some deeply embedded infantilization that occurs in discussions about people with neurodiverse disorders that effect executive function. It’s one thing to have an explanation and identify why things take place. Its something else to take a leap and hard-associate the overuse/abuse of the most widespread device in human history with ADHD as if its some kind of cultural right to melt your neurons into a slurry with a constant flow of the garbage that is pushed on social media and beyond.
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No I did not an I’m sorry for that.
Was the original comment you responded to edited? I notice you keep using “reeducation” when the comment said “rehabilitation”, which might be cause for why we’re arguing.
Respected, have a good day, sorry to be annoying and fighting for a debate.
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I was a bit rude too, possibly because I hold some self-resentment myself, but also I’ve had to derive my own methods for dealing with things, and tend to feel like we don’t talk the "what next"s enough.
It feels good to be given the space to be a bit special and have needs accounted for, but i’ve found it all goes out the window when you need to go out and do things. Every time I’ve given myself that space, I take it for granted and have an even harder time participating in “normal” spaces, which hurts even more than if I just kept up the momentum. I can’t expect the people I meet in day to day life to have a grasp on my condition. They’ve got other stuff going on. The “normal” spaces will always exist to an extent. Someone working 10 hours a day out of the back of a van won’t have the energy or care to educate themselves on conditions unless its personal.
Like I think as a community we should have more people offering help to break certain comfort-based cycles. Addiction is the same for anything, and you need to want to break the cycle to get better. I don’t think we should shame people for being addicted, but we should still encourage improvement. When I see sentiments that are basically “its okay” without the second step, it makes me feel frustrated because having a safe space wont help me the next time I piss someone off for being a little too autistic. I need to catch it ahead of time and understand myself better to interface with the rest of the world.
I’m sorry the phones are such a liability for everyone else. ☹️ My smartphone is a huge help in dealing with my ADHD. My to-do list and reminders and calendars are the only things keeping my life from completely falling apart.
Im the same but I don’t use it enough so im just a huge mess
I mean… It’d probably do my ADHD ass some good tbh.
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But what if I am an idiot and a moral failure 😎
I disagree, people don’t choose to be educated wrong or indoctrinated, reeducation already doesn’t imply moral failure or responsibility for those being re-educated
Pretty sure we just shoot the ones who knew what they were doing and did it anyway, like ideological nazis
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I hope for a future when I am cited for reeducation after rightfully being called out on my whatver the word for boomer-bullshit for my generation will, cause my brain is a rotted mess despite my best efforts and reading of communism books
being wrong and learning right should be awesome not this dramatic punitive bullshit we have now