Most mods aren’t clueless. They know bigotry is occurring in their communities. Yet they too often just won’t be proactive about it because the behavior doesn’t overtly violate the rules. Don’t let bad actors weaponize your own rules against you!
This is why general rules (instead of specific ones) are better. One good one I’ve seen is “Don’t fetishize violence”.
So many people will say “guillotine” or “something should happen to them… in Minecraft” and think those comments don’t break rules.
It’s fine to talk about violence that has happened or may happen, but when you fetishize it it becomes a problem.
Different ideas:
“A violent thing happened or may happen” - ok
“A violent thing happened or may happen, wink wink” - not ok
I just think ultimately if you are on a community that I am operating, you are subject to my whims. It’s just a reality they have to accept. Call it power tripping, I don’t really care. I run the community the way I think it runs best, and if you don’t like it, you can make your own or go to another community. There are plenty of communities where people can call each other slurs and fight all day long. I don’t want it where I am.
I do my best to make things consistent and clear, I want people to know what the rules are. But I never let them be used against me. If I say “hey y’all cool it,” and you say “bite me,” I’m banning you. I don’t have time for that crap and the community is better without it.
you are subject to my whims. It’s just a reality they have to accept. Call it power tripping, I don’t really care.
I mean, that is “power tripping” and will drive posters and commenters away. Just because a poster is being dumb and unreasonable doesn’t mean you should be the same when you ban them.
I think lurkers and “audience members” prefer consistency and interesting content. As a moderator, I think you should refrain from trying to steer the conversation, to keep it organic.
I think mods should be like a gardener. You just prune around the edges and provide resources. What the plant (contributor base) grows should be natural. Don’t influence it too much or it will be boring.
I never said anything about steering the conversation. I’m talking about removing troublemakers. I would say that certainly counts as being a gardener.
Our discord is thriving and basically has no controversies ever. I would say it’s going just fine! Perhaps my community/Moderation style is not for you and I totally respect that. My communities are not for everybody. But I’m definitely not power tripping, it’s not like I enjoy kicking people out. I’m just not going to waste my time and I know my community is better for it, so the way is clear for me. If I take it too far people will leave, the community will fall apart, and I will learn my lesson.
Because some people see the way I operate as power tripping, because unfortunately some people think mods are basically there to just watch them cause havoc. My point is you can call it power trip in, but I don’t see it that way. I think you’re kind of picking a fight were there doesn’t need to be one here. Consider the context a bit.
This is why general rules (instead of specific ones) are better. One good one I’ve seen is “Don’t fetishize violence”.
So many people will say “guillotine” or “something should happen to them… in Minecraft” and think those comments don’t break rules.
It’s fine to talk about violence that has happened or may happen, but when you fetishize it it becomes a problem.
Different ideas:
“A violent thing happened or may happen” - ok
“A violent thing happened or may happen, wink wink” - not ok
I just think ultimately if you are on a community that I am operating, you are subject to my whims. It’s just a reality they have to accept. Call it power tripping, I don’t really care. I run the community the way I think it runs best, and if you don’t like it, you can make your own or go to another community. There are plenty of communities where people can call each other slurs and fight all day long. I don’t want it where I am.
I do my best to make things consistent and clear, I want people to know what the rules are. But I never let them be used against me. If I say “hey y’all cool it,” and you say “bite me,” I’m banning you. I don’t have time for that crap and the community is better without it.
I mean, that is “power tripping” and will drive posters and commenters away. Just because a poster is being dumb and unreasonable doesn’t mean you should be the same when you ban them.
I think lurkers and “audience members” prefer consistency and interesting content. As a moderator, I think you should refrain from trying to steer the conversation, to keep it organic.
I think mods should be like a gardener. You just prune around the edges and provide resources. What the plant (contributor base) grows should be natural. Don’t influence it too much or it will be boring.
I never said anything about steering the conversation. I’m talking about removing troublemakers. I would say that certainly counts as being a gardener.
Our discord is thriving and basically has no controversies ever. I would say it’s going just fine! Perhaps my community/Moderation style is not for you and I totally respect that. My communities are not for everybody. But I’m definitely not power tripping, it’s not like I enjoy kicking people out. I’m just not going to waste my time and I know my community is better for it, so the way is clear for me. If I take it too far people will leave, the community will fall apart, and I will learn my lesson.
Well then, I don’t know why you said:
Because some people see the way I operate as power tripping, because unfortunately some people think mods are basically there to just watch them cause havoc. My point is you can call it power trip in, but I don’t see it that way. I think you’re kind of picking a fight were there doesn’t need to be one here. Consider the context a bit.