• HughJanus@lemmy.ml
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    I think the question to ask is:

    “Why would anyone spend the time and money I did to go to school and become an expert of their craft when they can flip burgers for the same pay?”

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      The obvious answer is “because human’s aren’t robots, and enjoy pursuing different fields”

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        And the obvious reply is “I don’t care how much you enjoy it, no one wants to spend 6 hours/day at school for 4 years and spend $40k+ without expecting something in return”.

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            It’s not free. It’s taxpayer-funded.

            And the 4 years of their life? Is that free?

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              It’s fine, I don’t expect an American to understand this straight away - nor to be smart, to be honest. You see, the taxes of other countries are either lower or effectively the same as in 'murica, but because essential infrastructure isn’t being run for-profit, it becomes much cheaper for the government to pay for it, which results in a lower cost for the same results.

              4 years of their life? Is that free?

              Yes. You seem to be under the illusion that time actually represents tangible capital – it doesn’t. You’ll spend those 4 years alive anyway, right? Then you may freely use it to acquire education. Oh, another grand benefit of living in a civilized country – if you’re too poor to sustain your costs of living, be it because a part time job doesn’t pay enough or because your family lacks the funds, you can apply to receive free money from the state for the duration of your degree, provided your performance is acceptable.

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                I don’t expect an American to understand this straight away - nor to be smart, to be honest

                Ditto.

                You seem to be under the illusion that time actually represents tangible capital

                Yes, that is literally how that works. You’ve never heard the phrase “time is money”? That’s what that means. Money is nothing but a physical (or digital) representation of someone else’s time.

                You’ll spend those 4 years alive anyway, right? Then you may freely use it to acquire education.

                LOL what? Did you actually read that before sending it?

                “Hey, why not join an internment camp!? After all, you’ll be alive for 4 years anyway, right?”

                …or you could use it to do things you actually want to do?

                if you’re too poor to sustain your costs of living, be it because a part time job doesn’t pay enough or because your family lacks the funds, you can apply to receive free money from the state for the duration of your degree

                God I’m just so jealous that you guys have all this free money falling from the skies. I assume all of your work is completed by a legion of robots in this utopia?

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                  Yes, that is literally how that works. You’ve never heard the phrase “time is money”? That’s what that means.

                  If you live your life by following random aphorisms, be careful not to die in the next few minutes. Just because your monkey brain is hardwired to like certain word orders doesn’t make them rational or truthful.

                  …or you could use it to do things you actually want to do?

                  Weird, I know, but in civilized countries, people actually enjoy learning.

                  God I’m just so jealous that you guys have all this free money falling from the skies. I assume all of your work is completed by a legion of robots in this utopia?

                  No, still regular old capitalistic exploitation - we’re just not so stupid as to accepts the horrible conditions you have in the US of A.

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                    What is it exactly that you think money is? Just fancy paper?

                    No one goes to school for fun except for rich old people. People go to school to get money.

                    we’re just not so stupid as to accepts the horrible conditions you have in the US of A.

                    The “horrible conditions” where we don’t have our money taken at gunpoint and given to people who contribute nothing to society? Yeah, it’s awful. Don’t come here. Please don’t come here.

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                  Yes, that is literally how that works. You’ve never heard the phrase “time is money”? That’s what that means. Money is nothing but a physical (or digital) representation of someone else’s time.

                  If that were true, billionaires would never die.

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                    It is true. It obviously doesn’t make you invincible 🤦. That money doesn’t vanish when you die. It just gets redistributed.

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      Because some skills are learned in school and some are learned on the job. They’re called “low skill” but got can definitely tell when someone is new to food service versus when they’ve had 1, 5, 10, etc years experience in it.