Meta entering this space is not something to celebrate. They don’t care in the slightest about fair play or open standards. They will use this as an opportunity to monopolise the fediverse (they have a strong track record for this) and push out open platforms in favour of their proprietary, data harvesting shit. Trusting Meta will be catastrophic for the fediverse.
This blog post explains in a bit more detail how this is a problem: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
That article is a great read for anyone who was not around back in the XMPP days!
I’m surprised the author didn’t mention that not only did GTalk ruin XMPP, Facebook did the same exact thing. At first messenger was XMPP based and federated, could talk to GTalk and other XMPP servers!
I think suspicion is the absolute least we can react with to a soulless megacorp like Meta.
Honestly? I think defederating from them is wise. In some ways, I think this is kind of like the tolerance paradox; we’re open and tolerant but we know the second Meta smells money or power they’ll betray that tolerance, so do we show them tolerance knowing how they’ll exploit us?
I don’t think we should. Don’t let them sack the commons.
Meta will ruin anything and everything it touches and then announce all the great new “features” they’ve introduced. Anything they take part in is just an effort to control people to maximize profits.
On iOS the App Store says threads needs access to almost every systems data it can get access too. I’ve never seen as many warnings about privacy. Into way I’m downloading that.
I can’t see it being healthy for us in the long term.
Meta will only make decisions to increase profits. They have demonstrated this time and again be taking advantage of elections, the pandemic, and poor leadership to spread hate and misunderstood - this drives user engagement.
Meta cannot stand to have this content where they cannot get to it easily. They feel they they must have this content in order to show growth.
Their only obligation is to provide growth to their shareholders. This means that they do not need to play fair. They will want to control the platform. As femboy link pointed out, this did not go well for XMPP working with Google and Microsoft did not play well with Open Office.
The end game for this offer is that there is only a Metaverse where Meta-approved conversations happen. I would sooner create an OSS Facebook alternative where you federate with those you wish than allow Meta into our domain.
Correct me if I’m wrong but from what I’ve seen about it seems like a Mastodon/Twitter alternative? Lemmy really doesn’t have anything to do with it since we can’t even view mastodon posts here.
thats true, only mastodon users can interact with lemmy communities. On lemmy you can just see their profile and what they comment on lemmy, unfortunate you can not see their post from mastodon
Meta
Annoying. Evil. Greedy. A machine designed to enhance, promote and reward sociopathy, just as capitalism is in general. Ultimately unneeded.
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Just about the same. A pisshole representing much of the worst of humanity.
and other instances preparing to defederating from them?
Just good praxis. Preventive care, and the simplest measure of such that any respectable instance would take. . Effectively self-defense and should count as that if for some weird reason it came down to legal trials.
