• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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    If you’re genuinely curious then you can read chapters 6 and 7 in this book on how Russia transitioned into capitalism https://valleysunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/blackshirts-and-reds-by-michael-parenti.pdf

    Meanwhile, the current party is basically controlled opposition. Russia is now ruled by capitalists just the same way as western countries are.

    Why do you pretend that China has not got the second biggest prison population?

    Why do you still pretend that it does when I gave you two separate sources saying that it does not. Do you not understand the concept of per capita perhaps?

    How many political prisoners does the west have, aside from Assange, compared to the Soviet Union?

    This is your idiotic argument, so why don’t you tell me.

    How many Soviets were arrested for making jokes as opposed to Westerners?

    Show me Soviets who were arrested for making jokes.

    How many people left communist countries than leave capitalist ones?

    Tiny percentage of people left communist countries, meanwhile people who’d love to leave capitalist countries don’t have the means to.

    You keep on digging there buddy, can’t believe you do this clown act for free.

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      Marxism advocate violent revolution, and if Russians do indeed support communism. Why haven’t the Russians overthrown Putin yet? If they have done so with the tsar, why haven’t they done with Putin? Why haven’t the Russians supported the coup against Gorbachev to retain the Soviet Union if they are indeed supportive? How would you address the Soviet Union having had the most prisoners per capita, while it took the United States decades longer to attain similar rate? If it is better in communist states, why are we not seeing people moving to communist countries en masse? Why have we seen more East Germans risked getting shot escaping the Berlin Wall, than West Germans crossing to the east? Why do you think we see more Cubans trek the sea perilously across the Caribbean to leave Cuba than people going to? What do you make of people arrested in the Soviet Union for arbitrary reason? If you are what you claim to be, have you actually heard what they say or do you deliberately ignore them? There should be plenty of Russians still alive to tell their experience being imprisoned for making jokes or simply having farms who you could talk to, no? Do their experience matter to you? If communism is better in Russia, why has it fallen?

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        No, Marxism does not advocate violent revolution. I’ve explained this to you earlier, but due to poor reading comprehension you’re still repeating falsehoods here. What Marxism says is that the conditions that capitalism creates ultimately lead to revolutions.

        Why haven’t the Russians overthrown Putin yet?

        Because conditions aren’t right. Again, if you weren’t an ignoramus, and actually read about history of revolutions, you’d understand when and why they happen. You can start by reading this book from Ray Dalio who is a very successful capitalist, so can’t be accused of being a Marxist.

        Why haven’t the Russians supported the coup against Gorbachev to retain the Soviet Union if they are indeed supportive

        They did, and I linked you a book discussing this in detail in the comment you’re replying to. You obviously didn’t read the linked source because you are just a troll and aren’t actually interested in answers to the questions you ask in bad faith.

        To sum up, you don’t actually care about answers to the questions you’re asking. You are here to troll and that’s just pathetic to be honest.

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          Muscovites stopped the communist hardliners from overthrowing Gorbachev and backed Yeltsin’s support of Gorbachev. Wouldn’t you say that this is essentially stating that the Russians do not support communism?

          If the standard of living in Soviet Union is better than today and communism is better overall, shouldn’t that push Russians to overthrow the current Putin government? Why did communism fall in your opinion?

          How come you haven’t addressed my questions about prisoners in the Soviet Union and of their experiences? How come you are giving me questions as answers, to my query as to why East Germans tend to risk their lives crossing to West Berlin and more Cubans are attempting to leave than Westerners risking their lives to come in to communist states?

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              Will you answer my questions or not? Why did more people risk their lives to leave Cuba and East Germany than the other way? Why hasn’t the Russians revolted against Putin despite the excesses of his government? He has high approval rating of 80%. Wouldn’t you say that the Russians actually support him and the system he upholds more than the communism? Wouldn’t you say there is reason as to why communism fell, and now Russians appear to be more supportive of the current status quo?

              Libertarians support unregulated free market because they benefit from rising stocks and worker exploitation. Are you a communist because you are jobless and on welfare? Considering how quick you reply with pre-packaged gish gallop comments, perhaps you do not work at all or ever at all? Or do you extort farmers and such? Do you benefit from communism in one way or another? Did you just admit that atrocities in communism is okay, since capitalism does it anyway? Do you believe that two wrongs make a right? Do you relish in power or getting free stuff from communism to have become its supporter?

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                I’ve tried answering your questions, and it’s pretty clear that you just ignore what I say and keep repeating the same thing over and over. You’re just a troll, and I’m not going to waste more time feeding you. If you’re genuinely interested, then go and read all the materials and resources I provided you above. Of course, you’re not going to do that because you’re just here to troll. I do feel sorry for you, hope you get the help you need one day.

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                  No you haven’t. Do you, or do you not approve of mass arrest under the Soviet Union? Did you speak to anyone arrested by Soviet secret police before? Are you a welfare benefit receiver? Do you have a job to keep you busy enough? Is this why you are a communist?