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      I completely agree. Hamas made a horrific attack. That doesn’t justify war crimes by Israel. Unfortunately, people are wdownvoring you as they see only black and white, good and bad. Both are horrible in this instance and there is no ‘good’ side.

      Hamas were terrorists, killing innocent people. Israel is using the pretext of self protection after a terrorist attack to continue their policy of genocide.

      The Palestinians are in a horrible position. Israel, and by proxy the USA, Europe, has put them there. That doesn’t justify the barbaric terrorist attacks.

      We’ve seen this before. Most recently with northern Ireland. The only path forward is both sides at the table negotiating a peaceful solution. It was tried before and there was an impasse. It should be tried again with tapering off of support to both sides, militarily and humanitarian to encourage promptness.

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        Remind me how many peace offers Israel made and how many Palestine accepted again. It sucks but you can’t negotiate with an outfit that prefers mutual destruction to coexistence and sadly hamas does just that.

        Not saying Israel and the idf are always or always do the right thing but right now it’s protecting it’s citizens and I can’t blame them for that.

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          Israel only offers deals it knows are unacceptable to Palestinians. That is not a meeting of equals. Equals negotiate.

          I don’t think Palestine is smelling of roses. Hamas committed a terrorist attack that killed hundreds brutally.

          Israel have continued to take land in violation of international law. Is that continuing to offer deals?

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              In a way, there is always a power differential, but negotiating in good faith between countries involved respecting the sovereignty of the country you are negotiating with. I should have been clearer.

              Pressing for advantage is not the same as offering what you know to be unacceptable and refusing to budge. Then continuing to illegally occupy the territory under dispute in contreventiin of international law, in an effort to undermine the ability to enact a border at a future date.

              Your questions aren’t simple to answer in a short discussion but I don’t know that answering them would bring us further, either. Palestinians are the people in crisis that are disadvantaged. It’s hard to help others when you are struggling to survive. Israel doesn’t have to help them from a humanitarian point of view, but if they are in conflict, if they don’t seek to resolve it, violence continues on both sides. It either stays the same, escalates or fizzles out. History tells us when a people are persecuted, it does not fizzle out.

              When it’s a person, we say insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome.