• TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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    This is precisely why I find myself always taking a step back whenever I end up aligning with the socialist left on social politics. Everytime it is about cis het men self improvement or working out, it becomes about rightwing, redpill or whatever stereotypes you people want everyone to pigeonhole in. If that does not work, cancel, call the man a misogynist and done, hands dusted, no social consideration for men.

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      This is precisely why I find myself always taking a step back whenever I end up aligning with the socialist left on social politics.

      Sure, sure, you are as leftist as they come, butt

      Everytime it is about cis het men self improvement or working out

      Or you pretending it’s all you’re doing when you write Elliot Rodger tier shit like this:

      no social consideration for men

      I can already see the Petersonian crocodile tears. up-yours-woke-moralists

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        Sorry, I never followed lobster boy. He makes me cringe. But I have an actual complaint about western socialist left that seems to care about the optics of helping women and minorities, never realising that, contrary to what feminists illogically say, that not all men are supposed to be put in stereotype boxes.

        About 99% of my politics is pretty much as leftist, but if that 1% care about men’s rights to be treated equally as that of women is going to get labelled as a “Petersonian” or “pseudointellectual” redpill apologist, I welcome that with open arms. That includes comments like this post has, about a woman stereotyping all men based on what is probably her 2-5 male friends.

        We are not going to keep taking shit we are not responsible for. Blame the men that need to be blamed.

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          Sorry

          You’re not, but you sound more passive-aggressive with that Reddit-tier opener. If you’re that big into “self improvement” try improving your delivery style.

          I never followed lobster boy

          Considering how much you’ve already either lied about or laughably misread women around you, I’m going to doubt you here. If you truly haven’t, and you want to continue your crusade of self pity and totally-not-misogyny misogyny, you’re missing out by not signing on with Dr. Professor Peterson Esquire PhD MD. You have no apparent functional differences between your ideology and his.

          About 99% of my politics is pretty much as leftist

          There it is again. You are so totally as leftist as they come, butt

          The thing with bigots like you is that you think it’s some equal (or worse) negative thing to feel even a hint of what you in your privileged position dish out on a regular basis, unnoticed and unseen. If you truly feel oppressed by those evil feeeeemales, look at how many poor oppressed “canceled” men dominate corporate boardrooms and the Fortune 500 list (while burning the planet down).

          is going to get labelled as a “Petersonian” or “pseudointellectual” redpill apologist

          Because you are and have provided absolutely nothing of substance to prove otherwise. If you sermonize against women like a Petersonian, do pseudointellectual Redpill apologism like a pseudointellectual Redpill apologist, and then whine about the labels, the problem is not the labels. It is you.

          Blame the men that need to be blamed.

          You’re one of them. I am a man with good relationships with women, from my wife to my coworkers to my friends. The problem is you. Your pretenses of “self improvement” are keeping you in a bitter and hateful rut and I sincerely hope you drop the nonsense someday.

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        Did your “self improving” consist of listening to pseudo-evolutionary pseudo-psychologists run their mouths?

        Oh no, I refuse to shut up. You are no one to be able to do that, and I effectively seize that power from you. The one who made BS redpill assumptions about me simply saying I was working on self improving my personality during college days, is you. You wrote this, right?

        I think I forgot to partially address the “about women” part. There is another parent comment on this post, where a woman gets to stereotype all men based on her men friends, but that is not misandrist for some bizarre reason. My comment however was similar in tone, not aggressive, and yet it got labelled as misogynistic. If women get to speak on behalf of all men, men also get to speak on behalf of all women. Let’s play fair and equal, since feminists claim to advocate for equality.

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                As someone that’s done self improvement stuff (exercising, running calisthenics, healthier diet, letting stuff from the past go, mental introspection, etc) without the red pill chud nonsense, this guy’s comment is just not it. He still hasn’t let some girls “cock blocking” him go. What kind of self improvement is that? Clear issues with women here.

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                  That chud is “self improving” the way his not-idol Jordan Peterson “studied communism for 25 years” before the Zizek debate.

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            Uhm yes, someone that trashes others for working on themselves is a trash person, ESPECIALLY when that person claims to be a feminist. Is feminism about equality, or an illogical, incoherent bias towards favouring women no matter what?

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              So, what did you telling this feminist about your self improvement look like? Did it involve saying anything about the supposed nature of men and/or women?

              Because you’re doing that here, and “self-improvement” has become synonymous with evo-psych quackery like Jordan Peterson’s

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                Simply put, I was trying to become socially a good person for friends, to become socially favourable towards girls, since I was a whacko with borderline (not fully) redpill beliefs. I did, despite what this horrible person said to me, because of “toxic masculinity” aka not giving a F about her.

                Does that sound like lobster boy’s 12 rules and other evangelist Christian preaching to you?

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                  I was trying to become socially a good person for friends, to become socially favourable towards girls

                  Those are one and the same thing. Women aren’t some other kind of beast that you have to learn about, they’re just people that you need to unlearn some distinctions about if you ever want to connect with them. Same goes for men.

                  When I hear another man talk about men being chimps when chasing women, I hear excuses for stereotypical and often violent behavior

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                    When I say chimp behaviour, it only means unhinged, uncivilised and primitive behaviour with no moral or logical control over self. Basically put, how animals mate in the open. That allows no excuses in my book, the same way autism does not give someone a license to insult or harm others. Usually conservatives can use it as a phrase to cloak stereotypical behaviour, which is not exactly my intent.

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                  I was trying to become socially a good person for friends

                  And you failed.

                  to become socially favourable towards girls

                  And you failed.

                  since I was a whacko with borderline (not fully) redpill beliefs

                  Those never went away.

                  aka not giving a F about her

                  Your self-congratulatory apathy toward other people is self-defeating and the reason you continue to fail. congratulations

                  Does that sound like lobster boy’s 12 rules and other evangelist Christian preaching to you?

                  There is no functional difference. If you came up with that shit all by yourself you’re just working extra hard when that garbage is already there for the taking.

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                    Thanks for judging me and my alleged personality failures, when you know nothing about me beyond what I type on internet. I am enlightened and will soon reach divinity by your holy life crippling blessings.

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          men also get to speak on behalf of all women

          I am a man. I will speak on behalf of men that are not you and tell you to fuck off.

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            You do not get to speak on behalf of all men either, if I do not. So, I prefer not listening if this is the message and the way you convey it. I am not functionally same as lobster boy or whoever else, and I find such arguments quite the cheapshot.