Look the only reason I brought up my ancestors is that I was explaining my reasoning behind my actions. Admitedly I lean towards the abjectly most bloodthirsty and violent side of my ancesteral traditions, but it hasnt fucked me over yet.
As for water use of cattle, while it is quite high that has far more to do with alfalfa than anything else. Yet again an issue of factory farming, that more free range aint got a problem with.
Also I may have mistyped but I meant on the almonds to be in relation to local aquafure use and not in gross total.
But frankly speaking, I dont give a fuck. If I had to choose between growing my own food or just killing someone and eating them im gonna go with option b.
Regardless im autistic and most vegetables make me want to cut off my tongue due to their texture. There no way in hell id becoem vegan short of synthetic meats becoming cheap enough for my poor ass.
No kidding. You aren’t refuting the Appeal To History Fallacy, you’re doubling down even. Cavemen used tribalistically murder and rape, that doesn’t mean it’s okay to do now. You’re smarter than that. You don’t need to do things because cavemen once did.
Alfafa is the culprit of high water use
You originally said vegan diets are worse for water use. I refuted you. You’ve basically replied with “that’s because cattle eat food that use more water”. They still use more water. Every meat eater purports to buy their meat “from the farmer next door”. However pasture raised cattle require longer life spans before slaughter (18-30 months old instead of 13-15) due to a reduced energy-dense diet. The water reduction isn’t that much.
Local aquafure use is used more in almond production than beef
Forgetting that almonds (which I suggest people DONT eat) use 50% less water than cows, groundwater was the source of 62% of total livestock withdraws in the US. I agree that almonds are too water intensive, we should shift to soy which uses >20x less water.
I don’t give a fuck
Which is what I said at the beginning. The only valid argument against veganism is when someone says “I know a vegan diet is healthier, better for the planet and better for the animals, but I still choose to kill and eat animals”. There’s no arguing against someone who ignores reason to satisfy their tastebuds.
I’m autistic and don’t like veges
I’m sure if an autistic cannibal came along and said “I don’t like the texture of animals, I only eat human children and women” we wouldn’t accept that as an excuse.
Hahaha very wrong. A vegan diet decreases the risk of cardiometabolic diseases, such as cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes mellitus, obesity, and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.
It also sometimes has health benefits if done incorrectly, but that’s true of any diet.
How is not killing and eating animals not better for the animals.
Come on use that little noggin of yours to actually look up the data instead of going “it doesn’t”. You can do it little buddy!
A vegan diet decreases the risk of cardiometabolic diseases, such as cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes mellitus, obesity, and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.
that can be true while, at the same time, it has nutrient deficiency risks and is known to be a precursor to mental illness.
How is not killing and eating animals not better for the animals.
almost no one kills animals and eats them. if you just stop eating them, that doesn’t help the ones that are already dead, or stop more from being killed.
almonds (which I suggest people DONT eat) use 50% less water than cows
the sources of the water vary greatly, where much of the water that is attributed to cows is actually rainwater that ends up in the grass they graze, almonds are actively irrigated, and then the almond milk itself requires an input of potable water.
62% of water used in animal farming is groundwater pumped from local aquifures.
ok? what’s the breakdown among fisheries, pork, chicken, turkey, lamb, goat, and cow? if 98% of that is going to fish then it’s a useless statistic in this context.
Okay it’s patently obvious I’m dealing with someone who hasn’t attended a university or college. You don’t have the mental acuity to reason just yet. There are some people out there who can understand logic and that, but sorry my friend you ain’t one of em.
Cavemen probably had better moral barometers than tbh, what with the fact that most Eurosians have neanderthal genes. Doubt most cavemen would want to eradicate the leadership of an enemy tribe all because of a petty grudge built up over a hundred years. Doesnt stop me from wanting to inflict that apon the seventh day adventist, this isnt even family policy thats all me.
Also at best with the ground water thing and cows youve made me appreciate how fucking useful chickens are, creating constant source of nutrients and you can eat em fucking a.
Also I suspect the reason vegans are on average healthy is less cause their diet is inately better but more cause they are more focused on that in general, but I dont really care.
As fore the last one, whatever caused such a scenario its safe just go with it and make synthetic human meat for em.
Look the only reason I brought up my ancestors is that I was explaining my reasoning behind my actions. Admitedly I lean towards the abjectly most bloodthirsty and violent side of my ancesteral traditions, but it hasnt fucked me over yet.
As for water use of cattle, while it is quite high that has far more to do with alfalfa than anything else. Yet again an issue of factory farming, that more free range aint got a problem with.
Also I may have mistyped but I meant on the almonds to be in relation to local aquafure use and not in gross total.
But frankly speaking, I dont give a fuck. If I had to choose between growing my own food or just killing someone and eating them im gonna go with option b.
Regardless im autistic and most vegetables make me want to cut off my tongue due to their texture. There no way in hell id becoem vegan short of synthetic meats becoming cheap enough for my poor ass.
No kidding. You aren’t refuting the Appeal To History Fallacy, you’re doubling down even. Cavemen used tribalistically murder and rape, that doesn’t mean it’s okay to do now. You’re smarter than that. You don’t need to do things because cavemen once did.
Forgetting that almonds (which I suggest people DONT eat) use 50% less water than cows, groundwater was the source of 62% of total livestock withdraws in the US. I agree that almonds are too water intensive, we should shift to soy which uses >20x less water.
Which is what I said at the beginning. The only valid argument against veganism is when someone says “I know a vegan diet is healthier, better for the planet and better for the animals, but I still choose to kill and eat animals”. There’s no arguing against someone who ignores reason to satisfy their tastebuds.
I’m sure if an autistic cannibal came along and said “I don’t like the texture of animals, I only eat human children and women” we wouldn’t accept that as an excuse.
a lot of times, it’s not healthier
being vegan does nothing for the planet or animals.
Hahaha very wrong. A vegan diet decreases the risk of cardiometabolic diseases, such as cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes mellitus, obesity, and non-alcoholic fatty liver disease.
It also sometimes has health benefits if done incorrectly, but that’s true of any diet.
How is not killing and eating animals not better for the animals.
Come on use that little noggin of yours to actually look up the data instead of going “it doesn’t”. You can do it little buddy!
that can be true while, at the same time, it has nutrient deficiency risks and is known to be a precursor to mental illness.
almost no one kills animals and eats them. if you just stop eating them, that doesn’t help the ones that are already dead, or stop more from being killed.
the sources of the water vary greatly, where much of the water that is attributed to cows is actually rainwater that ends up in the grass they graze, almonds are actively irrigated, and then the almond milk itself requires an input of potable water.
62% of water used in animal farming is groundwater pumped from local aquifures.
You also conveniently ignore my point about soy milk. I suggest no one drink almond milk as it uses too much water.
Maybe argue against MY points instead of the ones you’ve invented. Unless… my points are too clever and compelling?
if i don’t have something to say, it doesn’t mean i’m ignoring you. don’t be petulant.
i haven’t invented anything. i’m adding nuance to your black-and-white analysis.
ok? what’s the breakdown among fisheries, pork, chicken, turkey, lamb, goat, and cow? if 98% of that is going to fish then it’s a useless statistic in this context.
Okay it’s patently obvious I’m dealing with someone who hasn’t attended a university or college. You don’t have the mental acuity to reason just yet. There are some people out there who can understand logic and that, but sorry my friend you ain’t one of em.
Good luck with your future endeavours!
an appeal to authority coupled with a personal insult isn’t evidence your statistic is relevant.
Cavemen probably had better moral barometers than tbh, what with the fact that most Eurosians have neanderthal genes. Doubt most cavemen would want to eradicate the leadership of an enemy tribe all because of a petty grudge built up over a hundred years. Doesnt stop me from wanting to inflict that apon the seventh day adventist, this isnt even family policy thats all me.
Also at best with the ground water thing and cows youve made me appreciate how fucking useful chickens are, creating constant source of nutrients and you can eat em fucking a.
Also I suspect the reason vegans are on average healthy is less cause their diet is inately better but more cause they are more focused on that in general, but I dont really care.
As fore the last one, whatever caused such a scenario its safe just go with it and make synthetic human meat for em.